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DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#1601: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:13:34 PM

Yes. Which is not fun, because it makes people think I am 12 or under - that may also be my face though. But when I speak, people think it's a boy and look at a boy in the room instead.

I am almost 17, and female.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#1602: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:15:25 PM

That's indeed a bit odd.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#1603: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:16:11 PM

Yes, I'd say so as well.

I'm also very quiet. I'm almost unable to speak up, I feel like something is holding me back...

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#1604: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:19:47 PM

Could be that you're nervous. I've had the same feeling before, and I've tried fighting it.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Grr... <3
#1605: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:38:58 PM

My voice is my most androgynous feature. And when I get stressed, it stops sounding normal and gets sing-songey. It sounds whiny to some.

Troperfrom95 Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast from Ohio Since: Feb, 2016
Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast
#1606: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:39:17 PM

You already know what I sound like Adric, I will not torture your eardrums with my voice again. smile

(has seen one of my You Tube videos and heard first hand how awful I sound.)

edited 26th Jun '16 4:40:02 PM by Troperfrom95

Ya, I'm weird like that...
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#1607: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:39:42 PM

Actually I don't know what you sound like.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Troperfrom95 Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast from Ohio Since: Feb, 2016
Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast
#1608: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:41:01 PM

I thought e seen my You... +facepalm+ That was on a different forum! Duh, that was on Halo nation. Sorry.

My voice is horrible, BTW.

Ya, I'm weird like that...
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#1609: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:41:26 PM

I saw your You Tube, but I didn't watch any videos.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Troperfrom95 Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast from Ohio Since: Feb, 2016
Aspie and 90's cartoon enthusiast
#1610: Jun 26th 2016 at 4:42:29 PM

Don't, your ears will thank you.

Ya, I'm weird like that...
MegaBlastoise15 The Rhyperior Antichrist from New Jersey, USA Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
The Rhyperior Antichrist
#1611: Jun 26th 2016 at 5:20:22 PM

I was constantly mocked throught middle school because of my voice. But then again, I sound like a man. Keep in mind that I am 16. And female.

"People always say that you should follow your dreams... so I'm going back to bed" -me
Murataku Jer gets all the girls from Straya Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Jer gets all the girls
#1612: Jun 27th 2016 at 3:14:04 AM

I have trouble getting my volume right. When nervous I mumble without realising, and others often have to tell me when I'm getting too loud. I also occasionally use the wrong tone of voice by accident, making people think I'm feeling a different emotion than I really am.

edited 27th Jun '16 3:14:41 AM by Murataku

Sure the show's stupid but it's bright, fun, and you see grown men get punched in the face multiple times an episode. What's not to like?
PhysicalStamina Since: Apr, 2012
#1613: Jun 27th 2016 at 11:08:13 AM

I doubt there are many rap fans in here but I'ma share this anyway

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#1614: Jun 27th 2016 at 11:10:45 AM

I listen to Public Enemy every now and then. They're pretty good.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#1615: Jun 27th 2016 at 11:42:35 AM

I'm more of a video game soundtrack person, but I also listen to the music on "Café Music BGM Channel" on You Tube as background music a lot, particularly at work.

Anyway, reading more articles, and I saw one about a documentary on an autistic individual with a lot of input from the individual herself.

The comments section was where a lot of the interesting stuff was, as is often the case on articles like these. One major point of contention is the idea that autistic self-advocates are taking the megaphone, so to speak, for themselves and distorting the view of autism to include only those who are "high functioning".

While I understand the controversy around the use of terms such as "high" and "low" "functioning" (and the author of NeuroTribes pointed out the flaws in such terms), the fact remains that we get situations like this:

Personally, I think the broadening of the spectrum and the removal of Asperger’s from the diagnostic criteria was idiotic. I have a 12 year old granddaughter with an autism diagnosis who would have fit the Asperger’s model to a T- she’s so mildly impacted that most people have no idea there’s an issue. My son, on the other hand, is as severely impacted as you can imagine. It seems absurd to me that they share a diagnosis and a label, when their level of functioning, their needs, and their life circumstances are miles apart. The discrepancies make conversations about best practices even more difficult than they were historically.

Of course it’s not the first idiotic thing the APA ever did, and I’m sure it won’t be the last.

Historically, it was psychologist Lorna Wing who discovered the sheer breadth of the autism spectrum and insisted on the term "Aspergers Syndrome" being invented so parents won't have to claim their little professors had "autism". Even though she recognized Aspergers was in fact a form of autism. She played politics to help others.

Just to highlight some of the kiddos with ASD that have peopled my life that were each “somewhere” on the spectrum:

The first child I mentioned was so profoundly impacted that the home country’s society thought the child possessed. The custom at the time was to have a witch doctor remove the evil spirits with ritualistic torsos burning. The child was only 3 when the parents appeared at the center & in my classroom…

This child is imprinted into my heart & memory. And was responsible for a scramble to seek answers by a slew of folks from multiple disciplines who desperately wanted to help before the family had to return to their country.

The child I provided 1:1 therapies for was neuro typical until age 2. One had to spend only a small amount of time around the child to realize the ASD. Three years later, folks would have to spend a lot of time with the child to know there was a problem.

On the other hand, my own child’s ASD was masked for years by assumptions made with regard the primary DX with its obvious visual cue.

Took years of work for Kennedy Krieger Institute to convince others in accepting that dual dx existed in some with Trisomy 21. Now accepted worldwide which means better best practices early on. Not so much for folks my child’s age and older :(

My child’s best buddy is so articulate & “high functioning” that the average folk would not realize an issue existed... until a balloon (or whatever) happened to be within sight. Child totally adorably resembles Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory tv show.

What do you think about the idea of splitting autism into multiple labels/descriptions? To claim that two people with a massive gulf in their needs have the same condition, particularly when there's massive differences between them that drastically affect their abilities and needs, is in my opinion a bad idea. At the same time, it's called a "spectrum" for a reason, and I myself was nonverbal at the age of 3, having been diagnosed with autism before people in the US had heard of Aspergers Syndrome. You had to be pretty damn profoundly affected to be diagnosed at the age of 3, when I was a kid. And yet I'm obviously not the same now as I was then.

Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#1616: Jun 27th 2016 at 12:00:51 PM

From my experience, the people who say "don't believe in labels" are people that labels don't apply to. "They make children feel different" (We already know we're different, genius) "It's never good to define a person as one thing." (This I agree with, but just because someone has a certain label, it doesn't mean that label defines them) For people who do need labels, labels mean that we get the specific services that we need. People with different types and severities of autism need different services. Lumping us together in one group would be like lumping every person with a heart defect, for example, into one treatment plan. When labels escape the medical field and begin being used by the general public to describe the level of humanity someone has, like the "high functioning" and "low functioning" labels have turned into, that's where the problem starts. But using labels in diagnostics is very necessary if you want the best treatment possible

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Grr... <3
#1617: Jun 27th 2016 at 12:24:33 PM

Instead of splitting the spectrum up, essentially defining autism to mean something it is not, it would be much better to identify subtypes. This would help with both diagnostics and understanding.

Then those parents who need it can say: My child has A. It is a type of autism.

[up]Low functioning has been problematic as it was defined since the beginning as autistic person with a low measured IQ. I think an IQ below 75. It is no longer part of any diagnostics manual at all.

edited 27th Jun '16 12:28:36 PM by war877

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1618: Jun 27th 2016 at 12:40:26 PM

I don't care about the parents. Also the issue it doesn't define the whole thing, it assumes since one has one set of skills they must have it all and if they are lacking other skills they must have none.

war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Grr... <3
#1619: Jun 27th 2016 at 1:16:29 PM

If people simply pay attention to the definition, which to be fair I am having trouble with, then the problem goes away. Autism is like allism. Everyone with the condition is different and has different skillsets.

You could actually say the same thing about any psychological condition. A condition does not tell you what job a person has, and it does not tell you what entertainment they like, and it does not tell you what things they study, and it does not tell you how smart they are. Usually, it doesn't even tell you what a person's personality is like.

Autism is not a type of person. It is a condition that any type of person could have.

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1620: Jun 27th 2016 at 1:18:19 PM

Yeah. I don't know if I should be speaking for it I'm not autistic my cognitive issues are unrelated besides in the ways they overlap but.

edited 27th Jun '16 1:19:17 PM by phantom1

BonsaiForest Since: Jan, 2001
#1621: Jun 28th 2016 at 11:54:22 AM

A psychologist who's used to diagnosing her patients, finds autism in her own son.

Unlike most young parents facing an autism diagnosis, I knew what autism looks like in adults; where my son was headed. Even the smartest, best-loved adults with autism are at risk for unemployment, remaining dependent on their parents, and severe mental health problems including suicide. I knew a man with a master’s degree who did clerical work and needed help with his laundry. It was hard to look at my two-year-old with this cloud hovering over him. This cloud only I could see.

Before James, I’d helped parents focus on their children’s strengths and potential, instead of their uncertain future. It was hard for me to follow my own advice.

DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#1622: Jun 28th 2016 at 1:22:11 PM

See, I always tell my mom about my suicidal thoughts.

She assumes it's "teen stuff"...

Even if it were, what makes her think that bypassing suicidal thoughts is okay?

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Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#1623: Jun 28th 2016 at 1:26:37 PM

A few years back, I remember telling my parents about my suicidal thoughts, and them being told to be quiet so I didn't "bother the neighbors" (I live in an apartment so "you're bothering the neighbors" is how I'm kept from showing anything emotion)

If you need help, I'd go to a school counselor. School counselors aren't always the most helpful though, so if yours isn't, ask for a referral to psychiatric services outside school. There are also psychiatric hotlines you can call at any time of day. The number is different depending on where you live, but you can Google it. If it's an emergency, just call 911. I hope you're okay.

DaftPunch hiya, the name's scout. from lesbian Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
hiya, the name's scout.
#1624: Jun 28th 2016 at 1:29:21 PM

Unfortunately, my mom acts as the school counselor. She doesn't even help with people's issues though; I've gotten reports from very good friends of mine who struggle with depression and anxiety far more than I do, and they almost always tell me "your mom doesn't really care... does she?"

I feel as though she is just not a decent human being. Bonsai will tell you - I've said a lot of stuff to him about her.

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phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1625: Jun 28th 2016 at 1:31:44 PM

Kids Help Line maybe? But yeah that's a shame.


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