Who do you want in Marvel vs. DC?

First off, it's "Spider-Man". That hyphen's always been there. And second, match him up against Ted Kord. Both Kord and Spidey were created by Steve Ditko. I think some people wouldn't be comfortable with the idea of beating what's pretty much God in a fighting game.

Weird in a Can (updated M-F)

Krona as the final boss. He was the main villain in the Avengers-JLA crossover series.

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Krona is indeed a good one.

But I have to stick to my guns about making it something other than a fighting game.

How about Green Goblin versus Joker? Similar color palettes, and they're both nutty as can be, with outrageous laughter.

Heroes:

• Supes (with Bizarro, General Zod, and Electric as alternate costumes)
• Bats (with Batzaro, Azbats, and Adam West costume as alts)
• Wondy (with Artemis, Hippolyta, and JMS costume as alts)
• Green Lantern (with the other Earth G Ls as alts)
• The Flash (with Wally's Rebirth costume, Quicksilver, and Zoom as alts)
• Aquaman (with Ocean Master, Namor, and 90s appearance as alts)
• Martian Manhunter (with Vision and White/Green Martians as alts)
• Green Arrow (with Arsenal and Hawkeye as alts)
• Blue Beetle [Jaime Reyes]
• Black Lightning (with 70s costume, Static, and Electro as alts)
• Plastic Man (with Mr. Fantastic and Elongated Man as alts)

• Cap (with Guardian, Bucky Cap, and Steve Rogers: Super Soldier as alts)
• Spidey (with Black Suit, Scarlet Spider, and Spider-Armor as alts)
• Thor (with Classic, Odin, and Thunderstrike as alts)
• Iron Man (with Centurian, S.T.R.I.P.E., and Mark I as alts)
• Ms. Marvel (with Classic, Photon, and Binary alts)
• Dr. Strange (with Dr. Fate and Zatarra as alts)
• Luke Cage (with Classic as an alt)
• Wolverine (with Brown, X-Force, and Civilian as alts)
• Deadpool (with X-Men, Deathstroke, and X-Force as alts)
• Hank Pym with Janet (with Yellow Jacket, Ant-Man, and classic Giant Man as alts)
• Hulk (with Abomination, Rulk, and The Thing as alts)

Villains:

• Powersuit Lex Luthor
• The Joker
• Bane
• Cheetah
• Sinestro (with Classic and GL costume as alts)
• Grodd
• Black Manta
• Captain Cold (with Mr. Freeze as an alt)
• Mongul (with Darkseid and Thanos as alts)
• Brainiac (with Robot, Superfriends, and Brainiac 5 as alts)
• Catwoman

• DOOM
• MODOK (with Elvis DOK, MODAM, and Hector Hammond as alts)
• Magneto (with Dr. Polaris, Mag-fuckin'-Neto, and Ultimate as alts)
• Green Goblin (with Hobgoblin, Demogoblin, and Classic as alts)
• Venom (with Anti-Venom, Mac Gargan, and Flash Thompson as alts)
• Dr. Octopus
• Loki
• Taskmaster
• Ultron
• Absorbing Man
• Juggernaut

I tried keeping it realistic, with 11 characters per category, with alternate costumes hopefully filling in the gaps. If I weren't in such a hurry, I'd think of some moves/playstyles, so ask away.

edited 17th Aug '11 11:20:45 AM by 11Numb

Would any Amalgam characters be in it?

"How about Green Goblin versus Joker? Similar color palettes, and they're both nutty as can be, with outrageous laughter."

Norman Osborn has more in common with Lex Luthor than with Joker.

But if someone else were to be paired with Lex, Joker would he a good second choice.

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^^ Depending on the Writer, Norman Osborn has more in common with Lex, while The Green Goblin has more in common with Joker.

Anyways, on my wishlist for a game like this: Cassandra Cain. Most of my others have been said already.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

^ Maybe. But Red Skull would probably work better as a Joker Rival. They are both villains that make other bad guys realise they have Standards

@11 Numb

I dunno, i doubt they'd have the alts be other characters. Especially since heroes have bunch of cotumes they've worn to pick from.

Hulk himself has several good costume to pick from. Joe Fixit, Green Scar, Maestro, etc.

I thought about that, but I guess that system was a bit of wishful thinking. Figured it'd be the best way to cover all the bases without wasting slots on overly similar characters. And now I'm kicking myself for not thinking of Joe Fixit .

Batman of Zur-En-Arrh would be a good alt-costume too, especially since it would stand out from the others.

Whenever I think of Batman in a game like this I think of a Shun-Goku-Satsu-esque move where he grabs the opponent and does something to cripple or incapacitate them while the screen briefly fades to black.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Some guy wrote an article on this very prospect.

Can't say I like his roster. It should have at least 30-35 people on each side.

Never mind that, he never mentions who would develop it.

Not a very impressive lineup, I agree.

And why is he choosing them based on power-level? If it's a fighting game, they've already been thrown out the window!

Ambush Bug.

It's a comic website. Comic-book geeks just don't know how to think outside of comic-book terms.

Now that I think about it, this little detail hasn't been brought up by anyone in this thread so far. Who would be the chosen to develop such a project?

This whole prospect was brought up by Ono saying he'd be interested in making this game, so Capcom is an option. However, I could easily see people writing it off as a MvC clone*

. If it were developed by Capcom, it would most certainly be a 2-D fighter: there's no shortage of people who believe such a fighting system isn't good for encapsulating these characters' powers *

^{Superman for instance would probably be able to fly for 3 seconds. You can almost hear the fanboy whining already}

. Furthermore the two companies are American; I don't think the rabid comic-book geeks would be too happy with a Japanese developer "messing" with their beloved franchises*

^{whether the game is good is irrelevant}

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I think we can rule out Activison and Warner Interactive. The two companies are insecure around each other enough as it is, and we don't need an alliance so delicate to be further strained by complaints of internal company-loyalty.

There's also EA, but I'm pretty sure Marvel wants to stay as far away from them as possible after Rise of the Imperfects. The most unfortunate thing is that it's difficult to name any western developers that are good at fighting games.

Come on people!! Why hasn't anyone mentioned Black Canary? Put her up against Black Widow and you get your obligatory, designated girl fight.

Nightwing and Red Hood would be very awesome too.

You just can't do Superman right in a fighting game. They try again and again and it's always JUST SO WRONG

EDIT: when you win against Superman, he should get right back up, completely unharmed, and shake your hand

edited 1st Nov '11 4:35:28 PM by ActuallyComma

Except [condescending response follows]. Because [sarcasm here]. You do understand [snark], right? POTHOLE TO SARCASM MODE

Unless he's fighting Batman. Batman would just dump some kryptonite on him and walk away.

Also, on the subject of that comic-book nerd's roster: Flash is Spiderman's equal? SERIOUSLY?

A good writer puts in a lot of details in there story. But a great one gets a story from a single detail.

Amazo would be a very interesting character to have, as well. It could copy the move sets of the characters on the opponent's side and alternate between them. To stop it from being a Game-Breaker, it's copied attacks could be given a longer charge time and slower recovery or something.

Just make move-copying meter-dependent, or something. Anyway, Shang Tsung and Shinnok taught us that giving a character every move in the game doesn't necessarily make them that good.

You know what would work better than this? Batman/Gotham fighting game. The characters just lend themselves to it. Superman and Green Lantern standing on the ground sweep kicking each other just doesn't work for me.

EDIT: in the Batman fighter, give Clayface the move-copying ability!

edited 1st Nov '11 5:15:45 PM by ActuallyComma

Except [condescending response follows]. Because [sarcasm here]. You do understand [snark], right? POTHOLE TO SARCASM MODE

Here's this huge roster I've been working on for the last while. 50 Characters on each side. Just a heads up, take all these "rivalries" with a grain of salt; most of them aren't meant to be serious.

• Thor VS. Superman
  ^{Both are extremely powerful. In his rune king form, Thor is a master of magic while Supes is weak to magic}
• Captain America VS. Batman
  ^{Both are Badass Normals and looked at as pillars of their universes}
• Iron Man VS. Wonder Woman
  ^{These three complete the trifecta}
• Hulk VS. The Flash
  ^{Strength versus speed}
• Wolverine VS. Deathstroke
  ^{Both are among the best fighters in their respective universes}
• Spider-Man VS. Hawkman
  ^{Both are animal-themed, and considered A-listers without being very powerful}
• Namor VS. Aquaman
  ^{This should be obvious. I think their power-sets are far enough apart for two character slots}
• Nova VS. Green Lantern
  ^{Both are a part of a type of space-police that protect the universe}
• Ms. Marvel VS. Captain Marvel
  ^{Similar power-sets}
• Silver Surfer VS. Martian Manhunter
  ^{Both are space-themed and have a variety of incredible powers}
• Black Widow VS. Catwoman
  ^{Both very cunning yet completely normal woman (aside from Widow's longevity)}
• Daredevil VS. Green Arrow
  ^{Both are normal guys with extraordinary abilities}
• Punisher VS. Huntress
  ^{Similar abilities and theme}
• Dr. Strange VS. Dr. Fate
  ^{Two of the greatest magic users in their universes}
• Ghost Rider VS. Lobo
  ^{Both are considered some of the strongest in their respective universes, and both ride motorcycles}
• Deadpool VS. Booster Gold
  ^{Practically everyone finds them annoying}
• Cyclops VS. Black Lightning
  ^{Both have energy-based powers and are skilled athletes}
• Storm VS. Power Girl
  ^{Very, very powerful women}
• Emma Frost VS. Raven
  ^{Extreme mental battle}
• The Thing VS. Cyborg
  ^{Both are horrified by their appearance but deeply respected by their peers}
• Mr. Fantastic VS. Doctor Sivana
  ^{Both are incredible geniuses}
• Human Torch VS. Red Tornado
  ^{Fire versus wind}
• Invisible Woman VS. Kimiyo Hoshi
  ^{Light versus force fields}
• Black Panther VS. Nightwing
  ^{This is supposed to be a mismatch. Panther is supposed to vaguely remind Dick of Batman}
• She-Hulk VS. Cheetah (Minerva)
  ^{More strength versus speed, this time as a Designated Girl Fight}
• Moon Knight VS. The Question
  ^{Both are exceedingly paranoid detectives}
• Iron Fist VS. Black Canary
  ^{He's a martial artist with chi, she's a martial artist with a sonic scream}
• Luke Cage VS. Zatanna
  ^{These last two match-ups aren't supposed to make any sense; Zatanna and Canary are going to be a cross-over team-up together soon, so I though it made sense to put them up against one of Marvel's best duos}
• Wasp VS. The Atom
  ^{Shoule be obvious}
• Captain Mar-vell VS. Captain Atom
  ^{Two of the strongest of their universe}
• The Vision VS. Metallo
  ^{Two of the best robots of their respective universes}
• Blade VS. Swamp Thing
  ^{The greatest monster versus the greatest monster-hunter}
• Songbird VS. Starfire
  ^{Both power sets create a good foil to the other}
• Darkhawk VS. Blue Beetle
  ^{Tech-themed flyers}
• Juggernaut VS. Gorilla Grodd
  ^{In most scenarios, Juggernaut would slaughter the poor gorilla. Give him some prep-time and he might be able to just barely pull off a victory}
• Taskmaster VS. Prometheus
  ^{Both like to take moves}
• The Sentry VS. Bizarro
  ^{Instead of sending the guy with similar powers to Superman up against Big Blue himself, I went with his twisted double}
• Venom VS. Parasite
  ^{One stole most of his powers from Spider-man, the other steals his powers temporarily}
• M.O.D.O.K. VS. General Zod
  ^{A battle of minds as well as in combat}
• Apocalypse VS. Vandal Savage
  ^{In a straight-up fight Apocalypse would take this. In a chess match-like battle of wits is where this would get interesting}
• Green Goblin VS. Ra’s Al Ghul
  ^{Both are criminal masterminds}
• Super-Skrull VS. Mongul
  ^{Both are very powerful aliens}
• Ultron VS. Brainiac
  ^{Two of the deadliest AIs face off}
• Mephisto VS. John Constantine
  ^{The guy has beaten Satan before. Let's see him do it again}
• Loki VS. Sinestro
  ^{This is actually more of a Designated Villain Fight}
• Magneto VS. Black Adam
  ^{Before you go saying this is a mismatch, keep in mind that Magneto's shield has withstood stronger things than Black Adam is capable of. Utilizing his full abilities give Magneto more than a shot}
• Dormammu VS. Trigon
  ^{Both are dimension-devastatingly powerful dark lords}
• Red Skull VS. The Joker
  ^{Both are two of the most terrifying men you could ever meet despite having no powers}
• Dr. Doom VS. Lex Luthor
  ^{Both are nigh-unstoppable criminal masterminds}
• Thanos VS. Darkseid
  ^{They'd most definitely be the orchestrators of this mess}

For the final boss, I'd go with Doomsday stealing the Phoenix Force ala Capcom Vs SNK 2 or Dark Phoenix on a rampage (or maybe The Void doing the same).

edited 25th Nov '11 11:53:09 PM by Alucard

Don't forget the Grandmaster! As one of the guys who showed up in JLA-Avengers, and a guy who's entire shtick is being obsessed with games, it would make perfect sense for him to be in. His victory pose would have the camera zoom out to show we were just watching his tv screen while he had a go at the game.

EDIT: Don't forget Dr Strange and Dr Fate.

edited 1st Nov '11 5:49:18 PM by ABRICK

A good writer puts in a lot of details in there story. But a great one gets a story from a single detail.

I didn't; they're in there.

Obviously you mean Impossible Man VS Darkseid for the last one, right?

edited 1st Nov '11 9:07:27 PM by LenisJates