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Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#1: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:34:07 PM

The reason given was: "Deleted the Ben 10 example, since it's not canon. Incest Subtext and Incest Yay Shipping are better fitting."

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What's to be done?

edited 9th Aug '11 4:34:40 PM by Vox

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#2: Aug 9th 2011 at 4:39:16 PM

It doesn't illustrate the trope very well. In fact, it's a pretty classic Just A Face And A Caption, since without the caption to explain that 1) they're cousins and 2) that he's "checking out his cousin's breasts", it simply looks like a female lecturing a male and him avoiding her eyes.

So I'd say that it doesn't matter whether it's canon or not, it's a bad page image.

edited 9th Aug '11 4:39:34 PM by Madrugada

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#3: Aug 9th 2011 at 5:20:20 PM

If the page image needs to get the relationship across, we'd probably need to whip up a family tree.

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#4: Aug 9th 2011 at 7:02:38 PM

There's this in the examples list...it'd need to be arranged vertically and would be a little off-balance because of that. Beyond that, I'd be fine with this one not having a pic.

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#5: Aug 9th 2011 at 7:33:59 PM

[up] Awkward...

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#6: Aug 9th 2011 at 8:30:26 PM

EDIT: Nevermind, posted in the wrong thread.

edited 9th Aug '11 8:31:38 PM by Willbyr

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#7: Aug 9th 2011 at 9:01:32 PM

Agree that the Ben 10 pic is bad, I suspect Hatedom activity. Or perverts. Whatever.

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#8: Aug 11th 2011 at 12:47:23 AM

Superman: Vertical, One-panel

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#9: Aug 11th 2011 at 4:35:36 AM

[up] Either would be fine with me.

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#10: Aug 11th 2011 at 7:46:05 AM

Would a family tree be preferable to text? Something like this, for instance? (Not proposing that particular example, just the concept).

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#11: Aug 11th 2011 at 8:28:53 AM

The important thing, I think, is the interrelatedness, not who was who. So I played with it a little to highlight that.

Red: Cousin marriages.
Purple: Uncle/niece marriages

edited 11th Aug '11 8:32:28 AM by Madrugada

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#12: Aug 11th 2011 at 8:32:33 AM

I actually don't like the Charles II example because of all the uncle/niece marriages, which aren't this trope. I just thought a family tree would be the best way of visually demonstrating incest (not a noun phrase I thought I'd ever use), and that was the first example I could think of.

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#13: Aug 11th 2011 at 9:39:14 AM

[up][up] I like it, although to make it trope-specific we may want to just highlight the cousin marriages.

edited 11th Aug '11 9:39:41 AM by Willbyr

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#14: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:38:14 AM

It would be easy enough to take out the purple lines and just leave the cousin marriages.

Red: First-cousin marriages

edited 11th Aug '11 10:55:45 AM by Madrugada

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#15: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:59:19 AM

I like it.

Is there a more general trope the one with the purple lines would be good on?

edited 11th Aug '11 10:59:39 AM by INUH

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#16: Aug 11th 2011 at 11:31:07 AM

It would work on Tangled Family Tree, but that has what I think is an excellent page image already.

edited 11th Aug '11 11:36:18 AM by Madrugada

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#18: Aug 11th 2011 at 11:36:26 AM

Alternate caption: "Something may be wrong when you only have eight different people as your five-times-great grandparents on your mother's side."

edited 11th Aug '11 11:37:03 AM by Madrugada

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#19: Aug 11th 2011 at 12:02:40 PM

[up]x5 Looks good; [up] is a little clunky, but it works.

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#20: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:48:38 AM

Any objections to this?

Something may be wrong when you only have eight different people as your five-times-great grandparents on your mother's side.*

edited 1st Sep '11 9:30:14 AM by Willbyr

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#21: Sep 1st 2011 at 7:57:15 AM

Looks good to me.

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#22: Sep 1st 2011 at 9:16:59 AM

Add a hottip saying that there should be 64 different people at the five-times-greatgrandparent level.

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#23: Sep 1st 2011 at 9:30:38 AM

Done. Small text or regular-size?

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#24: Sep 29th 2011 at 1:26:01 PM

Man, this should've been wrapped up a long time back. The family tree pic and caption are up and tagged; locking up.

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