Love, Sex, Society n' Stuff

'Kay, the topic of this thread is the societal views of sex and love. Other stuff can come up, like morals and laws and whatnot, but what we want to focus on is how love and sex are viewed by the modern generations.

Personally, I believe that the current generation has no idea what love is. If I say "I love my friends", my friends would probably wonder how I planned to get all of them in bed. I'm not exaggerating.

As for sex, let's look at how it was viewed only decades ago: "Loose" people were looked down upon and respectable people could hold it until they met someone they loved (in the sense of "marriage" love). Nowadays, if you hold to "old-fashioned" values, you are a prude to be laughed at. Does this seem right to people?

Borne By Storms

It depends on who you talk to. I still know many people who are grossed out by the idea of sex before marriage (or at least the person you plan to stay with long-term).

edited 4th Aug '11 5:07:11 PM by melloncollie

Yes. Sex shouldn't be restrained by pseudo-Christian values.

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

I love my girlfriend. Who are you to say otherwise?

Also that.

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.

I think people shouldn't give a shit either way. If you're not comfortable with sex before marriage, that's cool. If you enjoy sex and want to get it on all the time, that's cool too.

Either way, we shouldn't be telling other people that one way is right or wrong. That's just rude.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

My view of it is that there is a distinct age range (16-18) where people are officially mature enough to handle sex. However, that's only in the legal sense. On a practical level? Most people aren't ready for sex—and the requisite mature relationship and possible consequences—until much later. But legally, I would not stop people after they hit that age range.

I am now known as Flyboy.

Fixed that for you.

Men were admired, even encouraged, to sleep around as much as possible before marriage, and sometimes after. Women were harshly penalized for the slightest indiscretion.

As for the comments about love, I'm not sure I can argue with that. I certainly have friends who I love dearly, but if I tried saying, "I love you," I'm pretty sure all of them would take it the wrong way unless I added "As a friend/brother/sister" without pause. I actually find that incredibly disheartening.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

But who says when someone is "ready" for sex?

When people put so much stress on it and make such a fuss, that is when you make people unready.

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

Well, we may have different views on the subject, since I am pro-life. I would consider someone "ready for sex" when they are emotionally and economically capable of dealing with it and all the associated baggage, from children to relationships to STDs.

I am now known as Flyboy.

@USAF

Maturity, you mean.

Ancient societies had children reaching adulthood at a way younger age. Since those societies were, you know,ancient, children had to mature at a faster rate.

Nowadays, however, could you imagine giving a 14 year old adult status? This is one of my points: the modern age has people twice my age who are half as mature. They don't have to think as hard, so they don't.

edited 4th Aug '11 5:48:19 PM by OrKuunArQenByundis

Borne By Storms

After the roller-coaster ride that was that other thread...I didn't want to touch this.

I'll only say this, as a former abstainer (life really was simpler that way) and a current....well, whore....I guess the only thing I can say is this.

Know what the fuck you're doing. And for GOD's sake be honest with your mate, partner, friend with benefits, whatever.

edited 4th Aug '11 5:48:57 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

It was an honor

I have pontificated at some length on this topic in other threads both in OTC and in Yack Fest. I'll not waste anyone's time with my bitter and selfish opinions.

Pun intended? Also, aren't you being a little harsh on yourself?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

I like to think I'm in the middle of the typical american viewpoint as far as sex goes..

I'll have sex before marriage and not think twice, but I'll never be with more than one person at once. No three-somes, no mistresses, one woman is enough for me at a time.

I also don't particularly like to talk about my sex life. Everyone always wants to get into gory details, but my girlfriend and I are kind of prudish about us having sex. We don't talk about our sex lives to others much, and to be honest, we're kind of a lovey dovey kissing in the missionary position in bed with the lights out kind of couple.

@Barkey: D'awwww.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

@ Barkey: Nothing wrong with that. Kissing is lots of fun.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

When we aren't using handcuffs.

Hey, you're lucky you can get the real ones. The handcuffs they sell at sex shops are pretty shit.

Ahem. I remember wanting to save myself for marriage. Now I've done a complete Heel–Face Turn.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

So we've derailed the thread because we're all sex crazed maniacs. Nice.

It was an honor

I wouldn't say it's a derail at all. Sex is in the title.

inb4lock

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

True. And dude LOVE the avatar!

Sticking feathers up your but doesn't make you a chicken!

It was an honor

GO to fetishes: everyone is a fetishizing serial killer.

And thanks, he'll be around for 1-2 weeks.

If you don't like a single Frank Ocean song, you have no soul.

^^^^^

You can legally buy the real ones at all sorts of different stores...

Anyway, I was mostly joking. That isn't common practice for us.

It's mostly the prudish stuff.

edited 4th Aug '11 6:31:29 PM by Barkey

I think it's a truism that the less pussy you're getting, the less prudish you tend to be on the subject.

I'm a skeptical squirrel

In one last attempt to salvage the thread, why do you guys think some people get too protective of the way they do things, to the exclusion of other's methods?

Eg, I sleep around and that's okay, therefore you're a complete idiot for waiting?

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian