Description issues: Half Identical Twins

By and large, this article is perfectly fine. Except for this sentence:

"They often display identical twin tropes, such as Twin Telepathy or Synchronization, especially if they are Creepy Twins."

How is that related to the trope "in fiction, male-female twin pairs will almost always be identical twins, even though in Real Life they would be fraternal twins"?

Will anyone mind if I cut that sentence? It seems completely unrelated to the trope.

(Also, at least one of the examples is about a male-female pair of twins who have Twin Telepathy but don't look identical.)

edited 31st Jul '11 1:27:18 AM by DoktorvonEurotrash

Axe it and the related example. Completely unrelated to the trope at hand, which is entirely based on physical appearance.

Keep.

It's related, this trope is about how female-male twins are treated as identical twins despite there being no way for that to happen.

Physical appearance is the most prominent of the "identical" treatment,not the only one.

Sounds more like Useful Notes.

edited 31st Jul '11 6:01:59 AM by Xtifr

The sentence you cut was there to help crosswik twin tropes and give people links to other things they might be looking for as well as help describe the character type outside appearance.

If we start cutting all our crosswiks, people won't be able to get places.

That looks like it should be in the "related tropes" paragraph at the end.

Yeah, moving it to the related tropes section makes more sense than cutting it entirely.

Actually checking the trope again, I think its fine as it is. Going to make a minor change to point out that its common in Sequential Art and Animation, but other than that, since the examples seem to have been cleaned up, I think we're done here.

I'm not sure why you think it needs to be done that way. You're better off with the all inclusive "drawn media".

I didn't think of that, actually. That is better. I'm not sure why "Sequential Art" was singled out originally.

How about "Drawn or Animated Media"? That should cover most of the places where this would reasonably appear.

Yes. Better to be broad than actually try to bias the reader toward one medium. Actually, I think "media where the creator can completely customize the look of their characters" but that's a bit of a mouthful.

How about just "Drawn Media"? I mean it doesnt have to be animated, and even CG is almost always drawn via CAD or rendered.

Yeah, thinking on it, drawn media is the way to go. I was trying to think of a way to lump in literature.

Drawn or literary media?

Yeah when I was trying to describe the whole Buxom Fanservice thing in the breast thread I was having a hard time coming up with a term for this I was thinking "Complete Creator Controlled Media" was about the best I could come up with for grouping drawn works and books.

Shima has it well.

The "nigh unto impossible" part is technically wrong, as half/semi-identical twins do exist and are recognized by experts IRL (in the form of "same maternal chromosome set, different paternal chromosome sets"), though medical science is still stumped on exactly how they come about. The line should be changed.

edited 27th Aug '11 3:06:55 PM by MarqFJA

That's different from the trope. That one is more literally half: they have a degree of similarity that is halfway between identical twins and non-identical twins.

Half-identical twins in the trope sense are identical except for sex.

Is the current description satisfactory?

I don't think anything else needs to be done here. We can close this.

Made the suggested change.

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