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MeetTheNewBoss I'm Ruthless. from The Same As The Old Boss Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#5451: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:14:30 PM

Dagomon never says anything about wanting Kari. He just misteriously appears in the end of the episode and then...nothing.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#5452: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:17:12 PM

Yeah it wasn't Dagomon, it was those creepy things Kari freed.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5453: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:19:24 PM

Oh.

Then what the fuck was Dagomon even doing?

Just chilling in his crib, minding his own shit or what?

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#5454: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:39:53 PM

You think we'll ever learn more about the entity that possessed Kari in the first series? Apparently its name is Homeostasis.

http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/Homeostasis

http://wikimon.net/Homeostasis

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MeetTheNewBoss I'm Ruthless. from The Same As The Old Boss Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#5455: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:40:25 PM

He was...looking. Looking at our heroes going back home.For some reason.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#5456: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:41:37 PM

It was a creature? It had a name? There was something possessing Kari?

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#5457: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:45:33 PM

[up] It was in episode 45, The Ultimate Clash. http://digimon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ultimate_Clash

I always thought more info was revealed in the Wonderswan games or supplemental materials for the original series, but apparently info about it was released only very recently, in the Xros Wars manga.

I get the feeling that the writers had no idea what they were doing with some plot points.

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MeetTheNewBoss I'm Ruthless. from The Same As The Old Boss Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#5458: Oct 9th 2015 at 7:46:04 PM

Some kind of magical fairy Kari meets in episode 45. It sort of comes out of nowhere, gives a lot of exposition, and....disappears.

edited 9th Oct '15 7:48:12 PM by MeetTheNewBoss

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#5459: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:02:51 PM

[up][up] It's not just Xros Wars, the Digimon Adventure novels originally named it and provided some of the information that the Xros Wars manga uses. But those didn't have an official localisation and are still in the process of being fan translated.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5460: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:06:39 PM

Oh. So the Digimon Xros Wars manga didn't just come up with that out of nowhere eh?

Good to know.

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Zennistrad from The Multiverse Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#5461: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:06:41 PM

Kari's Crest of Light has also been treated very differently from the other crests, and it's implied to have a much deeper connection to the Digital World than the others somehow.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5462: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:10:05 PM

Make sense.

All the other's are concepts, but Light seems to be more of a representation of Holy power in the digital world.

I didn't explain that well, but it's clearly something distinct from the other crests.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#5463: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:42:26 PM

Weren't both Kari and TK's crests considered more special than the others? Something about representing the Hope and Light of the digital world.

edited 10th Oct '15 10:17:39 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5464: Oct 10th 2015 at 9:56:47 AM

Yes. I believe that's exactly what they were.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#5465: Oct 10th 2015 at 10:18:03 AM

No wonder their partners were so OP.

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MeetTheNewBoss I'm Ruthless. from The Same As The Old Boss Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#5466: Oct 10th 2015 at 11:19:31 AM

Children Are Special. The younger children, in this case.

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#5467: Oct 14th 2015 at 7:27:52 AM

That is something that may serve as a start point for the possible deconstruction that is to come: now that TK and Kari have grown up, the power they can give to their partners has dwindled.

Considering that the power to digievolve comes from the emotions of the partner, another point would be the chosen children being forced to access to ALL of their potential: their light and their darkness.

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ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#5468: Oct 14th 2015 at 8:41:52 AM

I don't think Kari is at any risk of losing her strength because she is aging, after all she is the franchise's greatest example of Incorruptible Pure Pureness, to the point of even glowing once in a while. TK on the other hand, has issues.

edited 14th Oct '15 8:42:57 AM by ShadowAbyss

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#5469: Oct 14th 2015 at 8:55:39 AM

[up] She had issues in 02 specifically because of that. She broke down and said she couldn't handle being a Messianic Archetype. I think, it's been a while.

Though I think it was for only one episode.

edited 14th Oct '15 8:56:00 AM by lalalei2001

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5470: Oct 14th 2015 at 9:15:52 AM

Yolei / Miyako slapped that clean out of her.

Or at least, I don't recall it being that much of an issue afterwards.

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#5471: Oct 14th 2015 at 4:08:36 PM

And then people dont like Miyako. THIS IS INJUSTICE!

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#5472: Oct 14th 2015 at 4:10:32 PM

She's kinda over the top. I can't totally blame them.

I mean, she's lucky she's got a funky ninja plant as her partner.....

When he isn't busy being a 4 legged bird, a horny bird, or a hermaphrodite that is.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#5473: Oct 14th 2015 at 5:01:26 PM

I've heard otherwise, that she along with Daisuke and Iori are "Dull and Boring".

I have always liked her, but its truly mindmelting to see how much people hate 02. Seriously, I always thought what I read from here was a bit whiny but other places seem to believe 02 is VIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILE.

Jesu Otaku despises Savers and thinks its the lowest of the low too.

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#5474: Oct 14th 2015 at 5:08:54 PM

Not everything needs to get desconstructed.

What is anime? Anime is...only a weeaboo way of saying animation, really.
ShadowAbyss Since: Dec, 2010
#5475: Oct 14th 2015 at 5:46:05 PM

While 02 is not exactly my favorite season even I admit it has its good points and it is not something bad in any way. Maybe it is because I've grown up and started to understand more about the characters like Iori's tendency to see the world in shades of black and white. It is a season where not fully comprehending the characterization of some of the kids can diminish the appeal of the show. It is a fairly good season, just not something outstanding.

[up][up]And by the way, Savers is the best the anime franchise has to offer in my eyes. I will have to disagree with the reviewer there.

edited 14th Oct '15 5:47:05 PM by ShadowAbyss


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