DEATH BATTLE

Personally, I think the Death Battle was a little skewed in Dash's favor (and I say this as a brony). I get the impression that she's more of a Fragile Speedster/ Glass Cannon than a straight up Lightning Bruiser. In past episodes we saw her go up against a manticore and a dragon, and proved to be no match for either. The former was able to swat her away with just a flick of his tail, and the latter shrugged off a kick to the face like it was nothing.

Then again, it seems like they did know that on some level, since Dash relied mostly on her speed during the battle.

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Dash also had Homefield advantage, Cartoon Physics, and competence on her side. But as I said before, Starscream was screwed the second he went alt-form against somepony who could fly circles around him, and throw tornadoes at him.

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Something about the alt form of transformers, isn't it just meant it looks like the vehicle but doesn't necessarily have the same performance. Even if Starscream's alt form is an F-15, it doesn't means it cannot be much faster and much more agile than a normal F-15.

edited 16th Nov '11 10:11:35 PM by Blurring

If a chicken crosses the road and nobody else is around to see it, does the road move beneath the chicken instead?

But he's still subject to crosswind, regardless of how buffed up he is.

edited 16th Nov '11 4:37:10 AM by moocow1452

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Starscream also shrugged off the kicks like it was nothing. That's not really where her strength is

Well, I'm back and I watched the master chief vs. doomguy episode. And I happen to be a halo fan, but I can't help but feel that this battle was one sided. I have never gotten to play the Doom games, but c'mon! I know the master chief is far from an ordinary human, but doomguy FIGHTS DEMONS RIGHT OUT OF HELL AND CAN BEAT THEM TO DEATH WITH HIS BARE HANDS. For all the complaints that the RD vs. SC fight was pandering to the brony fanbase, the outcome made sense since RD is a bit of a badass {Who can RAINBOW NUKE things} while SC is a fucking dumbass who would find a way to lose to a newborn baby. But this fight? They just wanted to please the Halo fanbase.

But whatever. It's just a webseries made for fun. Nothing to lose sleep over. And don't be fooled by the caps, I'm not really mad or anything. I just wanted to give my 2 cents on the fight. And I don't hate the episode either {Watch as someone points out that my post makes no since whatsoever, and then I'll feel embaressed lol}.

By the way, who would win the Goku vs. Superman fight? I was under the impression that Superman would have won pre-Flashpoint, but nowadays Supes gets pwned by bullet trains; it seems to depend on which version of Superman they use.

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The current Superman comics are explicitly described as his early years when he's still figuring things out. All the events of pre-reboot still happened, just in a much shorter span of time. So he's still got the pre-flashpoint feats.

and that means that Goku loses. Badly

DBZ is strong universe but it tends to be really overestimated. There are stronger anime verses out there.

I'm not sure that's how DC continuity works; the most we can say is that some pre-Flashpoint events involving Superman happened, but not in quite the same way.

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Isn't a power level of 17,000 enough to destroy a planet? The power levels do get absurdly high near the end.

Being able to destroy a planet is pointless when you're too slow to get in an attack.

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There also has to be concrete evidence that they do that OUTSIDE of Filler. Vegeta was never implied to have destroyed planets in the manga canon. Moon busting was the highest they got to it via Piccolo by that time.

edited 3rd Dec '11 8:21:02 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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I thought it was generally accepted, even (or perhaps especially) in the OBD, that anyone above Freiza's level can blow up planets. Powerscaling is easy when everyone has basically the same abilities.

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Has it ever been shown whether ki attacks or anything similar can hurt Superman? I know he seems to have a weakness to magic, but that isn't quite the same thing.

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If the Ki attack is strong enough, it will hurt him, just like any other kind of physical attack. Otherwise, we just fall into a no-limits fallacy.

I don't believe Ki counts as magic, especially since there's a very clear difference between it and magic like the Dragonballs.

Goku can definitely blow up a planet with a good ki attack. A better question would be, what would that solve? Superman has no problem in the vacuum of space, while Goku would have to teleport somewhere with oxygen to avoid asphyxiation. I guess Goku could try to hope that Supes will take the blast, but that seems uncharacteristically ruthless of him (Considering that if Supes doesn't, Goku just killed his wife, mentor, friends, and 7 billion other people).

edited 6th Dec '11 1:22:01 PM by GildedATM

Supes survived an explosion that took out nearly half a galaxy unscathed in the silver age/ Pre Crisis era.

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Yeah, but he still would be killed if, say, you hurled a strong enough attack at him (Like one that could blow up an entire galaxy, for example).

edited 6th Dec '11 1:50:32 PM by GildedATM

Which Dragon Ball doesn't have.

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Moral restrictions are off in death battles by the way. That's why Harry Potter was chucking around all those Avada Kadavra's.

So would we be counting GT and/or silver age in such a battle?

Counting GT will piss off both Superman fans AND Dragonball fans. Counting Silver Age will make the battle much less interesting (Although Superman using a super sneeze to finish off Goku would be hilarious).

Not my point. I'm just saying that if you hit Superman with a big enough attack, he will eventually crack. This matters more when we have him faced against stuff like Toppa Tengen Gurren Lagann, which isn't magic and still could probably stomp him because of its sheer destructive power.

edited 6th Dec '11 5:58:42 PM by GildedATM

No one's saying that Superman is the strongest being created in all of fiction. There's a very long list of characters who are stronger, several from anime. It's just no one from Dragonball is on that list.

I think the crossover was already done between DC and Weekly Shōnen Jump to determine if the strongest character (at the time) in Western comics could beat the strongest character (at the time) in Eastern comics. They were evenly matched until Goku went Super Sayan Level One and used Kamehameha. But then again, I believe they were using Post-Crisis Superman, the version who was killed by Doomsday.

edited 13th Dec '11 9:25:35 AM by Voided939

There's never been a crossover between Shonen Jump and DC. If you're talking about Wizard magazine, they don't own the rights to either character.

Post-crisis or pre-crisis, Superman would still easily beat Goku.

edited 13th Dec '11 1:46:00 PM by Scardoll

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edited 25th Dec '11 8:33:50 AM by JustaUsername

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