DEATH BATTLE

Thanks to his arsenal, Batman's certainly more adaptable than Cap'n, which may be enough to make up for any physical disadvantage he has against the guy. I'm reminded of Link vs. Cloud, in a way.

...Then again, in that fight the weaker guy with a big bag of tricks was the one with the indestructible shield. So maybe not.

Mmm... I know I've said this before, but I wanna see Nightmare on a Death Battle.

I think Batman and Spider-Man may have already met in one crossover or the other, but their fight is explicitly stated to be their "first" meeting, so apparently inter-company crossovers don't count for foreknowledge in Death Battle.

I'll admit, they kind of are inconsistent with that though. Batman was limited on the tools he was allowed to carry but Tails got to use all of his toys in his random battle with Luigi.

So far as I can recall, that was non-canon to the 616 Universe.

Okay, Screw Attack got Link totally wrong in the Link vs Cloud episode.

Link does not have the skills and powers of all his previous incarnations. He's not the Avatar. Each Link starts out as a humble, normal guy who grows into a great hero, he never gets help from the spirit that's within him.

Even if Link lost, it still would be totally wrong. I'm sorry, but I'm just really irritated when anyone treats Link as a single character rather than several characters like he truly is in the series.

No, it is you who got it totally wrong.

Death Battle made their Link have all the abilities of all of his incarnations, so that they would not have to screw around trying to pick which one to use.

Skyward Sword and the Hyrule Historia do imply that each Link is a reincarnation of the one from Skyward Sword. His purported ability to carry over fighting experience from past lives is just a somewhat common headcanon on Link's Instant Expert abilities.

However, the idea that Link is a reincarnation doesn't apply to Wind Waker, where Link is explicitly said to not be The Chosen One and has to prove himself to the gods by reassembling the Triforce of Courage, so if that was their real justification they would have to leave out any Links from that timeline. And since they can't really use any specific Link since most only appear for one game, and any others not much more than that, them using a composite Link was the simplest solution.

edited 26th Aug '14 9:07:53 AM by IrishZombie

Another reason why I love Wind Waker.

Keyword "HEADCANON". As far as we know, the hero's spirit is not the same as, again, Raava/the Avatar Spirit. The Links do not grow stronger with each reincarnation.

And even then, it did not make sense for them to have a composite Link. They're supposed to be paying great attention to the canon of each series they look at, yet there's no composite Link in any of the Zelda games whatsoever.

edited 26th Aug '14 11:18:27 AM by WaxingName

I know. I was agreeing that the idea of Link retaining skills from his past lives is not an official one. Though given how the Link from Ocarina shows up in Twilight Princess to pass down his knowledge, one could make the case for it, in a non-Avatar fashion at least.

Besides, if they had just used one version of Link, that likely would have caused more people to cry foul, since whatever the result was might be different based on which one they used.

Twilight Princess also sort of denies Link being a reincarnation. TP Link can't very well be the reincarnated spirit of the Hero of Time when the spirit of the Hero of Time is still hanging around.

Ehh. It's a spirit nobody else seems to be able to see, and always reacts to Link's presence. That sort of stuff is right out of the Avatar playbook. And there are reference here and there to him being the hero reborn.

A thought just occurred: the Hulk vs. Rogue. If Rogue can copy Hulk powers (which google tells me has happened before in canon), then what may happen? Hulk powers are supposed to be infinite and include healing and durability...

Depends on if Rogue also get Hulk's personality. Hulk's strength is entirely dependent on his rage. If Rogue is her normally self she would still lose since Hulk only gets angrier the longer he fights. If Rogue gets the anger too, then we're talking about the Immovable Object vs Unstoppable Force debate.

Rogue gets personality too, she's just capable of tuning it out.

Has Rogue never fought the Hulk before? I know that the X Men are generally less connected to the greater Marvel continuity than most other Marvel characters, but I'd be surprised if that never came up before.

Maybe Marvel is convinced that the most likely outcome of physical contact between Rogue and the Hulk is that the former would overload on the Hulk's Unstoppable Rage and/or Gamma-radiation powers and explode in a rapid Superpower Meltdown.

Rogue's handled her fair share of heavyweights. She "permanently" absorbed Ms. Marvel's powers during the 1990's. There's also the fact that if she holds on too long her enemy will die.

edited 28th Aug '14 8:42:08 PM by Arawn999

I can't help but think that a Hulk vs Rogue fight has the potential to end up as another "whelp, that world's fucked" situation.

I think there is a limit to that, when she tries to absorb Apocalypse's power she becomes overloaded.

Using her powers on someone for a prolonged period of time knocks the victim out, if it doesn't outright kill them, though. Considering Rogue now has Wonder Man's power set and can no longer control her powers again, a fight between her and the Hulk could prove interesting.

edited 30th Aug '14 10:22:19 AM by Arawn999

I just now saw the Godzilla vs. Gamera Death Battle.

As for the next one, good god I hope Cap wins. I do feel that his more limited moveset compared to Spidey won't do him as well, and Batwank may finally win the day.

Speaking of Batwank, this video was much more entertaining for me as a Batwank hater than its title would suggest.

edited 31st Aug '14 8:02:33 AM by wanderlustwarrior

Idea: Who is Godzilla's greatest rival? This Death Battle will determine the mightiest of Godzilla's opponents, those he's been unable to defeat on his own. It can either be a battle royale or a one on one fight between any two of them. Contestants:

• King Ghidorah: Godzilla always needs help from other Kaiju or have him get distracted by the villain's mind control being broken to beat him. The heroic version from GMK: Giant Monsters All Out Attack should not be used because he was a lot smaller and weaker than Godzilla.
• Keizer Ghidorah: He was curb-stomping Godzilla until that mutant gave him a power up.
• Destoroyah: He was curb-stomping Burning Godzilla until the military intervened with their freeze rays.
• Mechagodzilla: Given one version actually killed Godzilla, he qualifies.
• Titanosaurus: He was tossing Godzilla around like a ragdoll until the military blasted him with those sonic weapons and then the mind control on him broke.
• King Kong: Honorable mention. Hey, he did beat Godzilla when they fought.

Mechagodzilla has never beaten Godzilla on its own. The one time it won, it needed to be rescued by the baby Mothras.