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#97676: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:24:36 PM

Bobby Jindal is ending Louisiana's Medicaid agreement with Planned Parenthood due to the selling fetal body parts video.

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#97677: Aug 3rd 2015 at 11:26:55 PM

you'd damn well better still show up at the polls.
As my dad always told me, "There's not always someoen you want to vote for, but there's always someone you want to vote against."
I love the "overfund the Pentagon line" because clearly Defense needs to be cut, but ignore the fact that Social Security and the saftey net takes up more than half the budget
Overfund, because Congress is infamous for not listening to the Pentagon when military leadership tells them what they want ... like fewer tanks and more money for the VA, as an example. Also, many of those safety nets you're decrying save us money is the long run.
that's like accusing a charity that mails care packages to soldiers of turning a profit
Sadly, this kind of thing is Truth in Television. There have been several that have spent more money paying their employees, or an advertising, than they have for the troops they are allegedly helping.
Fighteer can do smarter explanations because he's all smart and probably Paul Krugman in disguise
This would explain so much.
let's take a hypothetical scenario wherein we suddenly default on the federal debt payments owed to China.

China's economy collapses. Ours is not hurt at all.

Wouldn't our trade relations with, oh, say, the rest of the world take a major blow from that as well?
Its only remedy would be to go to war, but good luck with that.
Outside of Fallout is this really even possible?
Certainly it is not a territorial threat to the United States, although it could probably make things very difficult for Japan... until its navy and air force are sunk and it's reduced to glaring threateningly across the ocean.
Now I'm picturing Chinese combat engineers building a bridge all the way to Japan. Actually, didn't we have a China VS USA thread at some point?

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#97679: Aug 4th 2015 at 3:04:58 AM

The US State Department watered down its human rights report despite the protests of the experts who drafted it

As I posted in the TPP thread, it probably would be more depressing if it weren't so blatantly obvious.

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Lost in Space
#97680: Aug 4th 2015 at 5:12:08 AM

Wouldn't our trade relations with, oh, say, the rest of the world take a major blow from that as well?

Obviously, but the rest of the world is also heavily invested in dollars and would be much worse off than we in such a situation. The United States doesn't need to trade, except possibly for oil — we are a large, self-sufficient nation. Given the dollar's reserve currency role, undermining its value would result in a global depression.

Outside of Fallout is [war with China] really even possible?

Well, if they hold off another ten or twenty years, we might have that new fighter we've spent trillions on...

edited 4th Aug '15 7:49:13 AM by Fighteer

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#97681: Aug 4th 2015 at 6:09:18 AM

[up][up] Not surprising really. And people wonder why Human Rights are a joke.

edited 4th Aug '15 6:19:09 AM by Skycobra51

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#97683: Aug 4th 2015 at 9:23:32 AM

Man, what is Trump Industries doing that they need to hire that many rapists? I assume some of them are good people.

PS: To all future people who don't understand the context, Trump's the one who said that they're rapists not me, DON'T CALL ME A BIGOT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO~

edited 4th Aug '15 9:24:14 AM by TheyCallMeTomu

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97684: Aug 4th 2015 at 9:36:00 AM

Human rights often get thrown under the bus for the sake of realpolitik. Often, but not always. We'd still be good for putting the pressure on Malaysia if the current administration weren't desperately trying to pass the TPP, so keeping active about these issues is worthwhile, since TPP's not going anywhere in its current form.

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#97685: Aug 4th 2015 at 10:11:41 AM

[up] Malaysia ain't got shit on China when human rights are involved.

China's just as bad if not worse than some of those countries listed. And for some unknown reason, a member of the HRC along with Pakistan and Congo.

Real showcases of tolerance and human rights.

[down] Peace? Where the hell were they during the Syrian Civil War? Where the hell are they while ISIS runs rampant in Iraq and what's left of Syria?

edited 4th Aug '15 10:38:23 AM by Skycobra51

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Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97686: Aug 4th 2015 at 10:17:53 AM

The point of the UN is non-exclusion so that it doesn't create a new breed of Axis Powers (made of countries who walked out of the League of Nations), which leads to a dilution of moral authority in exchange for inclusion and peace.

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#97687: Aug 4th 2015 at 10:28:05 AM

[up] I understand letting them into the UN, but the Human rights council? Mind you Syria almost charred the thing, and it was always a fucking joke, more just an excuse for countries to pass resolution after resolution against Israel and stick their tongues out at the West than do anything constructive. The decolonization committee is very similar these days.

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#97688: Aug 4th 2015 at 10:50:18 AM

@BAFFU: The Korean War was two generations ago. The situation is somewhat different today.

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A procrastination in of itself
#97689: Aug 4th 2015 at 11:01:02 AM

[up]X4 Peace between nations, Syria and ISIS are internal conflicts within states, the UN mission isn't about them, it's about ensuring peace between actual recognised States, with proper armies and even nukes.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#97690: Aug 4th 2015 at 11:04:17 AM

[up]But that's part of their job isn't it? Like when they sent Peace Keepers to Rwanda or Somalia?

[down][down] And what if the country has no government? Or its a failed state?

edited 4th Aug '15 11:46:27 AM by Skycobra51

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A procrastination in of itself
#97691: Aug 4th 2015 at 11:18:43 AM

It's something that's been added over the years, but no it's not part of the job the UN was set up to do. It's an extra that we've throw at the UN pretty recently.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#97692: Aug 4th 2015 at 11:39:00 AM

Especially since the blue hats have to be sent in with permission of the state in question.

BAFFU Since: Dec, 2012
#97693: Aug 4th 2015 at 11:45:54 AM

"It's wrong to call Trump a fringe candidate"

Trump in the lead amongst all registered republican voters segment groups except for self described "moderates":

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edited 4th Aug '15 11:53:15 AM by BAFFU

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A procrastination in of itself
#97694: Aug 4th 2015 at 12:58:54 PM

[up]X4 Every country technically has a goverment, even if it's two guys and a dog that happen to have the backing of the African Union (see the goverment of Somalia). Even failed states technically have a goverment, as long as the goverment is functional enough to have a guy turn up at the UN it counts.

Most blue helmets (as opposed to UN approved forces from someone else) are sent to monitor a ceasefire that's been put in place, so they turn up once two parties have agreed to stop shooting each other and need someone to stand between them so they don't shoot each other by accident.

[up] Trump might not be fringe but he's still got less than 30% support, the numbers mean nothing until the race narrows.

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#97695: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:02:25 PM

RE: UN Peacekeeping and/or Genocide

It's supposed to be the job of both the UN and all of its member countries to intercede when a genocide is either occurring or proven to be happening. As to how successful that is, just check out the Real Life section of Would Be Rude to Say "Genocide" for more info, but be prepared to be depressed afterward.

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#97696: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:08:58 PM

Right wingers are engaging in a Civil War over who are real conservatives, and a specific point getting big right now is about the use of the term cuckservatives, (cuckolded conservatives) with all openly racist the baggage that comes with it.

I had a hard time taking this seriously, but the disgusting term “cuckservative” really is taking hold on the right. I’ll be honest: I learned about it a couple of weeks ago from the mild-mannered, clean-cut conservative writer Matt Lewis, but I thought he was making too much of it. It seemed like trying to shame one’s critics based on the behavior of the worst asshole in a comments thread. I didn’t bite.

Then “cuckservative” started showing up in my Twitter mentions last week, after I suggested Donald Trump supporters might not be the brightest bulbs. As I clicked around, I came to a shocking conclusion: I’ve been uncharacteristically downplaying the amount of racism and misogyny powering the right today. The spread of the epithet “cuckservative” is a sign that the crudest psycho-sexual insecurity animates the far right.

“Cuckservative,” you see, is short for a cuckolded conservative. It’s not about a Republican whose wife is cheating on him, but one whose country is being taken away from him, and who’s too cowardly to do anything about it.

OK, that’s gross and sexist enough already, but there’s more. It apparently comes from a kind of pornography known as “cuck,” in which a white husband, either in shame or lust, watches his wife be taken by a black man. Lewis explains it this way: “A cuckservative is, therefore, a race traitor.”

This is not merely a new way to shout “RINO.” It’s a call to make the GOP an explicitly racist party, devoted to the defense of whites. It’s no accident it’s taken off in the wake of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign launch/performance art, where he attacked illegal Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and “criminals.”

White nationalist Richard Spencer of the National Policy Institute explained Trump’s appeal to Dave Weigel: “a) he is a tougher, superior man than ‘conservatives’ (which isn’t saying much), and b) he seems to grasp the demographic displacement of European-Americans on a visceral level. We see some hope there.”

Rush Limbaugh helped spread the term to the mainstream when he praised Trump like this: “If Trump were your average, ordinary, cuckolded Republican, he would have apologized by now, and he would have begged for forgiveness, and he would have gone away.”

...

Jared Taylor, the white nationalist behind American Renaissance, is thrilled at all the attention.

They are squirming because a single word–cuckservative–lays bare the rot at the heart of your movement: American conservatism can conserve nothing if it cannot conserve the nation’s founding stock. I’ll put it bluntly: Nothing you love will survive without white people.

By last week, alarm about the use of the blatantly racist slur was beginning to spread on the right. The blogger Ace of Spades is a little concerned about what all of it means for the conservative movement, writing:

I am right now thinking that there are more white supremacists than I previously acknowledged, and am currently up in the air as to whether to dismiss this solely as a fringe-of-the-fringe phenomenon.

Other righties are refusing to dismiss it as “a fringe of the fringe.” At “Trial of the Century” blog Monday morning, Daniel Payne told the boys who bray “cuck” to “Go Cuck Yourself:”

Conservativism certainly needs a lot of work if it’s going to survive as a viable political philosophy in the twenty-first century and if it’s going to effect the kind of change conservatives themselves wish to see. But if we want these things to come about, we don’t need to be listening to the Chuck Johnsons or the cuckservative slingers or the people who actually use the term “real fighters” to describe themselves. They will not help. They’ll only make us look ridiculous and unintelligent, as they’ve already done quite handily for themselves.

More of the back and forth between conservatives appears in the full article. Article should probably be considered NSFW, due to referring to p0rny stuff and the obvious sexual obsession/inadequacy that many of people in it speak of.

A long article where a reporter goes to a Trump event in Iowa to answer the question of "Who are the people who support Trump?"

Every election dispatch from Iowa is required to include a bit of scenery-setting, to show you just how folksy Iowa is: corn, state fairs, dragonflies, balloon museums, smiling fat babies, etc.

This is not the Iowa I visited. The Donald Trump Make America Great Again Rally and Family Picnic was held in Oskaloosa, a small town 60 miles east of Des Moines. Oskaloosa is like a lot of small Midwestern towns right now: crumbling houses, shuttered businesses, half-empty strip malls. You are surrounded by loss here. One of the few thriving businesses I saw in town, apart from a kickass bar called The Cellar Peanut Pub, was a video store. An actual video store. They didn’t even have to rent porn to stay solvent. They had customers, and they were hiring.

Oskaloosa has been left behind in the Information Age. What has left here is never coming back, no matter what any politician or businessman promises. And people in Osky—the locals call it “Osky”—don’t look pleased about this. Contrary to friendly Midwestern stereotypes, they look PISSED. Every man I saw in town looked like your father-in-law the first time you met him at the door. Out on the empty roads, the only vehicles are big, angry pickup trucks with huge side mirrors sticking way out, like they wanna punch your car. People here are aggrieved. People here have had a lot of disappointment, and they are sick of it.

Like Karen and Diane. Along with a bunch of friends and family, they showed up early this morning to the 696-seat George Daily Community Auditorium (which Oskaloosa’s middle school and high school share) so they could get as close to their billionaire savior as possible. To “see the color of his eyes,” Diane said. I greeted their group as they waited by the door, many of them sitting in nylon golf chairs, nervous about losing their spot in line.

“I like that Trump won’t back down,” Karen told me. “He says what he means and he means what he’s saying. He ain’t going to say he’s sorry. Sometimes he likes to say things not politically correct, but they all better get used to that. The people who do speak politically correct have been losers.”

“They constipated America!” Diane said, rocking a House of Blues t-shirt. “What we have had is politicians and lawyers who have constipated America. Let’s get a businessman in there and get things moving! We need our new Mira LAX!”

Do you believe everything Trump says?

“At this point, I’m inclined to say he’s not lying.”

Do you think he exaggerates sometimes?

“Oh yeah. Who doesn’t?”

“He is for America,” Karen says. “He is for the elderly. He is for the quiet people.”

Who are “the quiet people”?

“The people like us, that a lot of times walk around with the attitude that, ‘Oh, it doesn’t matter what I think. I’m just from Osky.’ You know? The quiet people. The people who don’t think they have a voice.”

Karen used to live in Arizona, where she had a job at a semiconductor plant, adding gold buttons to each chip in on anassembly line. But the plant was relocated to China, and so she lost her job and relocated here. As you could probably surmise, she likes Trump’s tough talk about foreigners stealing our jobs. I had arrived in Iowa just as Trump was doubling down on his comments that Mexico was sending “rapists” across our border; people here loved it, and seemed oddly emotional about the subject of immigration, even though Iowa is nowhere near the border. Apparently, it’s not just the immigrants from Mexico that concern Iowans for Trump. “We need to get the Muslims out of the country,” a man named Bob with a swirling white beard told me, “before they start killing our families!” Everyone around him nodded.

Much, much more in the article, about both the Trump supporters and Trump's event speech.

Oklahoma's Republican Governor signs bill preventing any local cities or municipalities in the state from raising the minimum wage or requiring benefits such as sick days or vacation days

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R) signed a bill Monday prohibiting cities across the state from establishing mandatory minimum wage and employee benefits, including vacation or sick leave days.

Advocates of the new law contend that efforts to increase the minimum wage across various municipalities could potentially harm local business communities.

"This bill provides a level playing field for all municipalities in Oklahoma," state Rep. Randy Grau (R), a backer of the bill’s House version, said on Monday, according to the Associated Press. "An artificial raise in the minimum wage could derail local economies in a matter of months. This is a fair measure for consumers, workers and small business owners."

Opponents of the measure view the move by Oklahoma Republicans as retaliation against an initiative underway in Oklahoma City, where organizers have been gathering signatures to raise the city’s minimum wage from $7.25 an hour to $10.10, in line with President Barack Obama's federal minimum wage proposal.

The petition, filed by the Central Oklahoma Labor Federation and attorney David Slane, would need to collect 80,000 signatures to reach a statewide vote.

Slane called the measure disappointing, criticizing the state legislature for stripping "the right of the people to decide minimum wage."

Because, much like when Oklahoma and Texas state government passed law against local cities and counties banning frakking, small local government is always best... until it's smaller than state government. Then fuck anyone who doesn't agree with what the state says.

edited 4th Aug '15 1:10:24 PM by TheWanderer

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#97697: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:12:24 PM

[up] Huh - wonder if the "cuckservative" bit has anything to do with the perjorative's increased usage in various forums?

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carbon-mantis Collector Of Fine Oddities from Trumpland Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Collector Of Fine Oddities
#97698: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:27:06 PM

Until recently I haven't seen much of the term outside of MRA and Racist/White Supremacist circles, but the Tea Party/Trump sorts are taking a liking to it, especially since larger ultraright "news" sites like Brietbart have taken a fancy to it.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#97699: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:27:40 PM

I thought "cuck" was just short for "cuckold", a term a lot older than modern conceptions of race?

Of course, given my tastes, i would have called that genre Netorare.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#97700: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:28:49 PM

Well the MRA and White Supremacist folks tend to be Tea Partiers and Trump supports so I guess it's to be expected.

Oh really when?

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