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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#426: Nov 14th 2014 at 8:03:47 PM

[up] A lot of the best Internet stuff really isn't on the same level as the best of what the networks have had to offer, except for maybe Homestar Runner.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#427: Nov 14th 2014 at 9:29:58 PM

Frederator was the studio behind Oh Yeah Cartoons, and Fred Seibert not only loves to scout out new talent, but adapts to the new technological trends as they change. Ex, Cartoon Hangover is the latest in his creations and arose out of his noticing how more audiences have migrated to the Internet.

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#428: Nov 14th 2014 at 10:54:47 PM

Is animation still considered to be just something for kids and families? At least on TV, it's now for teens and adults too. I'm talking about allowing family-unfriendly content, which we've been seeing a lot more of. Nevertheless, the vast majority of cartoons are rather silly comedies, and animation with little humor seems to be something unheard of.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#429: Nov 15th 2014 at 4:15:26 AM

[up] Um... That's been around since the 60s. Maybe even the 40s.

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#430: Nov 15th 2014 at 6:26:13 AM

[up]Ditto.

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#431: Nov 15th 2014 at 6:47:28 AM

[up] Maybe they mean "right now," in which case I say: wait a couple years. It'll come back in style.

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#432: Nov 15th 2014 at 8:27:39 AM

I mean that censorship for TV cartoons hasn't been so lax until the 1990s and 2000s.

edited 15th Nov '14 8:29:01 AM by AHI-3000

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#433: Nov 15th 2014 at 8:45:11 AM

[up] Most people don't understand that the existence of animation at all for adults is a very big step towards its acceptance.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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#434: Nov 16th 2014 at 8:32:40 AM

A lot of the best Internet stuff really isn't on the same level as the best of what the networks have had to offer, except for maybe Homestar Runner.

I wouldn't say that. What about, say, RWBY, or Red Vs Blue, or Bravest Warriors?

Hell, Harry Partridge's stuff is beautifully animated (even though he only releases new content like twice a year).

edited 16th Nov '14 8:34:34 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#435: Nov 16th 2014 at 8:59:34 AM

I wonder...isn't there a difference between movies which really address children, and movies which are made colourful so that children can enjoy them, but are actually about very adult themes? The Hunchback of Notre Dame is naturally the obvious example, but it is also true for many of the Pixar movies. I mean, do children really care about Midlife crisis (The Incredibles), the worries of a father (Finding Nemo), the experience of becoming old (Up)? There is a big difference between movies like Dumbo and Fantasia. Or The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and Lady and the Tramp (which is actually a very risky story about a lady of standing falling in love with someone beneath her and ruining her reputation when you look past the fact that it is told with dogs). There are certainly a lot of undertones I didn't really get as a child in a lot of animated movies.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#436: Nov 16th 2014 at 9:26:22 AM

[up] You can get anyone to care about anything if you tell it well enough.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#437: Nov 16th 2014 at 10:29:02 AM

[up]Yeah, but my point is that there perhaps are already a lot of animated movies which are first geared towards adults, we just don't recognize them as such. In this case we don't need a different kind of movies, but a different kind of perception.

Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#438: Nov 16th 2014 at 10:34:14 AM

[up] I've said it before, but many shows for kids are enjoyable on their own terms; and if you want to enjoy them, you have to change your perception.

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#439: Nov 16th 2014 at 10:59:03 AM

You can't force people to change their perception, though, and you especially can't do that en masse.

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#440: Nov 16th 2014 at 11:00:51 AM

[up] Which is the whole problem with the thread, in my opinion.

There have been so many shows that apparently can break down the ghetto in the past several years, yet the ghetto is still here.

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#441: Nov 16th 2014 at 11:09:30 AM

So your problem is with basic human psychology?

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#442: Nov 16th 2014 at 11:59:26 AM

[up] To be clear - it's more with the people who think that we need more shows like so-and-so, then maybe the ghetto will break down. You know, if those shows you're lamenting didn't do a damn thing about the ghetto... Then what will?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#443: Nov 16th 2014 at 12:09:49 PM

Exactly. We can discuss to no end which kind of movie might break it, but it won't matter if said movies isn't perceived to be different by the audience, too.

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#444: Nov 16th 2014 at 12:32:19 PM

Personally, I'm not as concerned with breaking down barriers in the medium as I once was. I just want more variety in the choices that are readily available.

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Aldo930 Professional Moldy Fig/Curmudgeon from Quahog, R.I. Since: Aug, 2013
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#445: Nov 16th 2014 at 12:33:53 PM

[up] That, unfortunately, is a choice bound not only by the networks, but by the fans.

"They say I'm old fashioned, and live in the past, but sometimes I think progress progresses too fast."
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