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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#1: Jul 1st 2011 at 7:40:27 AM

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Yup. That's one of my goal in my life and I'm actually even working on a Light Novel-ish book. I'm guessing it would be something like Durarara meets Kara No Kyoukai. A thirteen episodes, at least for season one.

Not much point really, but I just wanted to officially (does this place counts) declare it.

Oh yeah.

edited 9th Nov '11 12:58:00 AM by dRoy

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#2: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:13:59 AM

You're welcome to try, I'd say. Good luck! Try to vary your artstyle, btw.

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#3: Jul 1st 2011 at 8:47:55 AM

What do you know about animation and music composition?

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#4: Jul 1st 2011 at 1:43:42 PM

Aren't you from Korea?

Sorry bro

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#5: Jul 1st 2011 at 9:14:20 PM

[up][up][up] Nah, I can't draw. Need an artist.

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#6: Jul 2nd 2011 at 1:21:07 AM

dRoy, you're my bro and all, but I gotta tell you this now.

Just give up.

I had similar dreams once. I thought I could get my story made into an anime. But in order to do that, I postulated, I needed to start somewhere realistic and build. A webcomic seemed better than anything. It worked for Hetalia right? If my webcomic became popular enough, people might start taking interest.

But think about this. Do you have any idea how much work goes into webcomics, even the crappy ones? It is a metric shit-ton of work, especially if it's not a one-man act. Having multiple people not only means the actual work has to get done, you can add organization of the group to the list of shit to do. Then there's the actual work like setting up a quality website, setting up some advertising, drawing the comic (and the artist will always want it to be absolutely perfect), and the writing of the comic, your job.

And after all that work, your comic will more than likely die in obscurity than become popular. Assuming that it does, you still have to pray and hope and wish until you shit your heart out that someone will pick your comic up out of the dark and make it into said anime.

Long story short: Don't try. It is way too much work for what essentially amounts to a one-in-a-million chance.

edited 2nd Jul '11 1:22:57 AM by KSPAM

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#7: Jul 2nd 2011 at 1:54:22 AM

Sorry to shatter your dreams but no gaijins or chosenjins allowed as Sporkaganza said. But you could still do some grunt work if you wish. I heard that Korea in the Japanese cartoon industry is a heaven for cheap labour. Or eventually you'll grow out of it.

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#8: Jul 2nd 2011 at 2:57:02 AM

Well, I don't think we should crush his dreams of getting an animated feature or series of some sort somewhere down the line. If his story is good enough anything's possible.

(CLAMP did Legend of Chun Hyang, so the anime industry picking up something Korean is not without precedent)

What I have to ask, though, is why aim for an anime specifically. So long as you can get someone to adapt your work well with an art style that appeals to you it should be enough.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#9: Jul 2nd 2011 at 4:02:46 AM

Aren't you from Korea? Sorry bro.

Not quite. Yes, I am a Korean and I also know that they hate my kind's guts (could be wrong, who knows what they really think about us). But American works, like some Marvel comics and even a TV show such as Supernatural is getting it and it is more than enough possibility that my works CAN (as in, possible) be adapted.

Or eventually you'll grow out of it.

Maybe. Who knows how things might turn out in the future. I used to want to be a mangaka, but realized that I can't draw to save my life, then a teacher, and here I am.

Long story short: Don't try. It is way too much work for what essentially amounts to a one-in-a-million chance.

Who knows, I might be that one. As long as it's not zero, it's fine.

What I have to ask, though, is why aim for an anime specifically.

I decided that after I watched Kara No Kyoukai (although I abhor gushing, I will say this: it's fucking awesome). It made me realize exactly what anime is capable of and I saw potential, something far beyond what live action films can do. Still, it's done by Nasu Kinoko, one of the most renown writers in the market and received enormous production budget (although precise amount I do not know. Does anyone?). I'd have to be a good writer, for the start.

All in all, I am not afraid to admit that I'm not quite planned enough and being too idealistic and naive. I'm fully accepting my dream's failure, I mean hell, I might not even get my work published, or not even manage to get any job (far more likely than you would think...) for a while.

Yet so far, I believe that it is better to try and fail than not trying at all.

edited 2nd Jul '11 4:13:16 AM by dRoy

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#10: Jul 2nd 2011 at 4:21:01 AM

Ah, youth. Well, good luck! I'm sure we're all rooting for you.

I can see two ways it is going to happen. One, become a storyboard writer. First step, become a writer. Write X words a day, make as many stories you can, and get yourself published. Then just hang around friends who are artists, see if you can bully one of them into letting you write a story for him. An advertisement, a short comic, something.

Second, become a cartoonist. Anime is massive, cartooning is the point where one still has all the creative control. This is also going to be difficult, if you don't draw. Try to get a partner. A permanent one. Again, if you're aiming to be a writer, you should have as much experience and credentials as possible. Have you won a school writing contest? Did you ever get published in a magazine? (If there are any sci-fi or fantasy magazines in your area, you should be buying them and sending in your own writings regularly. Prestigeous (!) online publications might work too.)

Something I would think of, though, is what it is that you -really- want to do. Sure, everyone would like their work on the TV screen, but that's a very far-off dream, and the way the industry works it may not even give you the kind of fulfillment that you wanted if you do reach it. (I trust you've researched how the production of an anime works and what people take part, so you should already know this.) But what it is that you -really- want? To see your work get animated? To tell a story? What you really want from the whole thing, for yourself, should be very clear in your head.

If you're serious then you probably had already thought of this, in which case, congrats! Too many people, though, simply don't. Even my artist friends are often too optimistic about their career options before they leave school. Pre-college kids are even worse.

Talking of school! You might want to aim for a liberal arts degree, if you are a writer. The least is that you know enough mythology and history, and all the past great writers. Including the ones of the country you want to work in. (It is always better to first try to get recognition in one's own country, though, and only try to establish yourself abroad if there is absolutely no choice.)

Source: I know diddlyshit about anything. This is not official advice.

edited 2nd Jul '11 4:22:28 AM by Vree

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#11: Jul 2nd 2011 at 4:44:16 AM

[up][up] Are the later episodes of Kara no Kyoukai any good? I remember watching only the first two ones and found them ungodly boring.

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#12: Jul 2nd 2011 at 5:00:42 AM

[up] About getting recognition in my homecountry, it's not going to happen. I can't really write in my own language. I mean, I can write, but not NEARLY good enough to be a writer. Seriously, I'm far more proficient in English when it comes to writing, at least compared to my Korean.

Being cartoonist, never going to happen. EVER. If you want to do something, you have to have SOME aptitude and that's absolute truth. I can be sure; I never liked drawing and never even doodled beyond some stick figures and even that I can count with my one hand, no seriously. I'm nineteen and too late to start, although sometimes I do wish that I can draw really well *

.

Just storytelling in general, on the other hand, I have some aptitude, or at least desire to do so, seeing how I find myself playing with some animes and their characters in my mind. I mean, hell, I once even wrote a Digimon fanfic for my elementary school project (you get no points for guessing how well it went).

I'm also aware that just officially publishing anything at all is a really expensive and as all publishers are reasonable people who want to make ends meet, they wouldn't want to invest in something really risky, hence tens of thousands of artists and their scripts/drafts/sketches getting rejection letter. For anime, I heard that an average anime episode cost around 100,000 $ and if I'm going for my expectation, it would be at least multiple of that so I'd have to be really good.

But what it is that you -really- want? To see your work get animated? To tell a story? What you really want from the whole thing, for yourself, should be very clear in your head.

Telling a story, but not just through actions and dialogues itself, but also through ambience as well. Anime is champion when it comes to making atmosphere because there's, given enough budget, absolutely no limit and if done right, can surpass that of films. Really, I just see so much potential in anime, but in my opinion, so many animes nowadays waste it on gratuitous moe-ness and other related fanservice.

Again, I'm not stupid enough to think that being an artist is an easy work. I will most likely live in poverty for a while, depressed and anxious that my work is not noticed by publishers, hungry, frustrated, and more than likely I will regret persuing it.

Still, (chuckles) what else? That's the only thing I WANT to do. I might do some other jobs, getting stuck in an office making copies and sorting trivial documents (if you have a job like that and enjoy it, just take this statement as one from an unknowledgeable fool). No matter how worse it is, I will find some enjoyment by working in anime making and if pain should accompany than so be it.

Besides, who knows how things might turn out in the future, I will have to wait and see, while working on my school works and writing project. :D

We'll see.

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#13: Jul 2nd 2011 at 5:04:37 AM

[up][up]In short, yes. I actually found first two to be pretty interesting, only if because I LOVED its dark Urban Fantasy atmosphere, not to mention GORGEOUS animation. The series in general is not for anyone, but one certain thing is that it gets more interesting after the second one.

Chronologically, it's 2, 4, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7. Fifth one...yeah, it's FUCKING INCOMPREHENSIBLE if you only watch the movie. The novel version is not, but I heard it's pretty inaccessible for you Americans (are you?). I for one, own both (thick) novels and I visit them pretty often.

edited 2nd Jul '11 5:05:08 AM by dRoy

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#14: Jul 2nd 2011 at 5:25:25 AM

The animation was quite okay but it was the story and the characters I didn't give a damn about. Maybe I'll give it a second chance one day.

Chronologically, it's 2, 4, 3, 1, 5, 6, 7.
It's Devil May Cry all over again. lol
The novel version is not, but I heard it's pretty inaccessible for you Americans (are you?). I for one, own both (thick) novels and I visit them pretty often.
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edited 2nd Jul '11 5:26:06 AM by AdeptusAlpharius

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#15: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:07:55 AM

I still don't get why it has to be anime. Sturgeon's Law applies as much to the Japanese entertainment industry as it does to anywhere else and the most competent studios will have extensive backlogs of source material that they want to use before they get to yours.

If you limit yourself to Japan you're cutting off a lot of options. Don't expect to have the luxury of choosing a studio. Evaluate those who come to you, even if they're not from Japan (and thus incapable of producing 'anime' by definition) and choose the one you feel will do the best job.

What I suggest is that you now focus on making your work as good as it can be. Forget about getting it adapted at all until it becomes a best seller at the very least.

edited 2nd Jul '11 6:09:01 AM by Recon5

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#16: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:17:46 AM

I said, there is some effects only anime can do. Yes, I'm aware of SL, and I know that I should make a book that stands out. I pretty much know where I'm going :D

In an unrelated note, my bigger dream is writing a story, in any form, that is both action packed, has a good story, and deeply explore human nature, like The Dark Knight and to lesser degree, Inception. I guess Christopher Nolan, Nasu Kinoko, and Naoki Urasawa are my role models.

All I can actually write is bloodgore and retardedly powerful characters...oh well, I still have to time for improvements anyways.

edited 2nd Jul '11 6:23:45 AM by dRoy

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#17: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:29:32 AM

Korean works have been made into anime before(though I only know one example), and Winter Sonata is very popular in Japan.

All I can actually write is bloodgore and retardedly powerful characters...oh well, I still have to time for improvements anyways.

Add Clothing Damage and you're set.

In any case, the main problem with getting an anime is money, and an Anime First show with you exclusively as the writer shouldn't be too hard as long as you got the cash.

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#18: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:35:52 AM

[up] Yeah...about Clothing Damage...I'm actually trying to avoid that due to my hatred of fanservice but that's something that I'll have to compromise.

I have no intention of going Anime First. Although, I'm also working in a non-fantasy work that I intend to get published in America and who knows, if I get a name there, it might be a lot easier for me to persuade Japanese anime studios better, and of course, I'm being too naive, but hey one can dream (yes I know that making it true is a whole another matter so help me, if you mention it, I will not be pleased).

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#19: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:38:01 AM

There's also a matter of the time period, who knows what the anime industry will be like fifteen years from now.

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#20: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:41:08 AM

(shrugs) Sometimes you just gotta play with factors you know at the moment.

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#21: Jul 2nd 2011 at 6:56:12 AM

All I can actually write is bloodgore and retardedly powerful characters

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#22: Jul 2nd 2011 at 10:50:55 AM

Sooo, retardedly powerful. How retarded is their powerfulness? Also, why not Anime First?

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#23: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:27:56 AM

Anime First is a REALLY RISKY. Think about it; an anime episode on average cost around at least 200,000 $ per episode. It's an expensive work.

Does a guy who can punch a people flying at the speed of sound and throws buildings like javelin, a girl who can dodge a bullet point blank, a person who can tap into mass unconciousness around him and mess with it, a God, sound stupid enough? Then again, it's an exaggeration.

edited 2nd Jul '11 11:33:52 AM by dRoy

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#24: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:49:11 AM

Sounds like a standard shonen.

I'm not seeing why you care about it being really risky when the requirement is making an anime itself though.

And you could just have QUALITY everywhere or go the NGE route.

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#25: Jul 2nd 2011 at 11:54:46 AM

I'm not quite decided on the genre (technically demographics but let's disregard the denotation) but it will be likely to be either dark shonen or straight up Seinen. It does involve serial murders, drugs, selling soul and all.

I should go sleep so I wouldn't continue rambling.

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