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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#38001: Nov 20th 2014 at 9:06:00 PM

Alright! I finally finished a draft of the first chapter of Queen. I'd really like it if you guys could look it over and give me some pointers. If you do, the second half of the chapter is really rough and going to undergo some heavy re-writes so don't bother with SPAG there. What I really need is another eye to make sure I got all the relevant ideas and events in.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#38002: Nov 20th 2014 at 11:42:38 PM

@SCM: It has potential, but first, think about what other differences that ponies have from humans that would make a difference. Otherwise, as said, it wouldn't need to be a ponyfic.

edited 20th Nov '14 11:42:47 PM by Sereg

BornIn1142 from Estonia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38003: Nov 21st 2014 at 1:53:57 AM

Meanwhile, I am about 1500 words into a scene about how Democracy Is Flawed and just not right at all for ponies.

I am hoping to see readers agree up to a point rather than dismiss the idea out of hand.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#38004: Nov 21st 2014 at 4:29:04 AM

Tough sell.

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CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#38005: Nov 21st 2014 at 8:52:34 AM

Bad writing red flag #78: your username is the same as your protagonist's name.

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#38006: Nov 21st 2014 at 9:18:31 AM

Do you actually have a list of those?

Also, I remember naming my Finmfiction account after the protagonist of my first fic, rather than the reverse. Of course, critics assumed the opposite.

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CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#38007: Nov 21st 2014 at 10:22:41 AM

I don't keep a list. Though one Schorl Tourmaline stuck in my mind after I tried reading one of their fics (they write bland porn featuring a brothel[?] run by one Schorl Tourmaline).

My previous post was prompted by a fic in the updated stories feed; Crystal's Wishes, by Crystal Wishes, starring Crystal Wishes. With a cover featuring a picture of Crystal Wishes, that is also the writer's avatar.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#38008: Nov 21st 2014 at 10:48:08 AM

That's totally not a red flag or anything.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#38009: Nov 21st 2014 at 10:50:56 AM

I'm more alarmed by the hockey glurgey title and bad pun than about the Author Avatar-ity.

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#38010: Nov 21st 2014 at 10:50:59 AM

EDIT: Nevermind.

edited 21st Nov '14 10:51:57 AM by MetaFour

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#38011: Nov 21st 2014 at 10:51:58 AM

[up]Precisely.Naked baby in a blue pool swimming after a dollar.

edited 21st Nov '14 10:55:02 AM by TheHandle

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#38013: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:11:33 PM

[up] He's referencing the cover art of Nirvana's album Nevermind.

I'm no fan of Nirvana but I admit that got a chuckle out of me.

And Clever, "username = OC name" should be way higher up the list of red flags.

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CleverPun Bully in the Alley from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#38014: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:20:59 PM

The list of red flags isn't numbered by severity.

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#38015: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:36:37 PM

Today, I had read a story that made me think "some people say that it's terrible to have your own self-insert character fall into Equestria, but it's even worse to have a pony fall into the "real world" and shack up with your self-insert."

And then I discovered the guy who wrote the damn thing also wrote a story in which he falls into Equestria. So I guess these people like to run in similar circles.

"Monsters are tragic beings. They are born too tall, too strong, too heavy. They are not evil by choice. That is their tragedy."
YamiVizzini Since: Jan, 2001
#38016: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:44:18 PM

Is Ponyfall any good? That seems to specifically say there's no shacking up.

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#38017: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:45:51 PM

I think it's possible to write a good story starring a self-insert... but if you're not creative enough to come up with a new name for your self-insert, you’re probably not the right person to write a good self-insert fic, either.

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#38018: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:52:10 PM

[up][up]Ah, I remember the spate of those fics. Bummer, 'cause I'm friends with the author of Ponyfall: Australia.

One of the people involved with the group actually tried to sign me on to write a Cranky Doodle fic, and I might've done it if I weren't a lazy dipshit.

But there were a lot of bad ones. The Celestia one had a big red flag when the story summary felt the need to point out she was a d-cup.

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
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#38019: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:52:59 PM

Dusky started as a 90% self-insert who got a bit role that required a pegasus at a time when the show didn't have any background pegasi I wanted to use to fill the role (just Derpy/Ditzy, who already had her own role). The role turned out to be slightly more important than I anticipated and she developed into more of her own character. She'd taken the "Kuroi" part of my name initially, although I renamed her before I started using her in anything serious. Still, I think that more or less qualifies, though I like to think I did a decent job of making her a non-crappy OC.

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YamiVizzini Since: Jan, 2001
#38020: Nov 21st 2014 at 12:57:18 PM

[up][up][up]Well, would it be a self-insert otherwise?tongue

(That said, I put a decent amount of thought into my own ponysona name- not that I'm likely to ever jot down anything involving it. I'm/he's kind of the villain anyway.)

EDIT: ...My copy of Past Sins is here.

edited 21st Nov '14 3:28:09 PM by YamiVizzini

Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#38021: Nov 21st 2014 at 3:44:41 PM

Is Ponyfall any good? That seems to specifically say there's no shacking up.

seeing as it's a bunch of adifferent fics by a bunch of different authors, quality varies greatly. Some of them were pretty great (Australia), some of them were okay to good (the AJ, twilight, and rarity ones), some of them were pretty bad (the RD and celestia ones).

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YamiVizzini Since: Jan, 2001
#38022: Nov 21st 2014 at 4:56:31 PM

And of course I've only seen a chapter of the RD one.tongue (Was morbidly curious how random guy could KO her in self-defense. Turns out it's not easy even when she's still getting used to her new form.)

Blissey1 insert title here from a random Pokècenter Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#38024: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:13:06 PM

Reading Night's favoured child. An AU where NMM has won and takes Twilight as a student.

The perpetual night gives it a very wistful, mysterious vibe.

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CDRW Since: May, 2016
#38025: Nov 21st 2014 at 6:39:41 PM

I like most of that story, except for the backstory worldbuilding. Also, it rarely updates.


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