3,358 inbounds, and 132 wicks is healthy. Having 3,358 inbounds puts the rename bar pretty high from the start.
The title is the common phrase for the phenomenon that is conspicuously absent in a wide range of fiction, leading to other fiction to lampshade it in places where it does turn up. It's best to do some research coming into a rename proposal: misuse is a prime bit of evidence to show that a name is misleading. Analyse 50 wicks and see what percentage is misusing the trope.
As for the text, I agree that it's a Useful Notes article in Main more than a trope article as it stands.
edited 26th Jun '11 10:27:56 PM by Camacan
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
adopting kitteh
I think it fits better in Useful Notes; where it should have been from the start, perhaps. While talking specifically about Impossible Giants is far more specific than what this rule is, it could work as a nice searchable redirect. That, or become a trope of its own (the use of the Square-Cube Law in fictional living creatures?).
Fanfic Recs orwellianretcon'd: cutlocked for committee or for Google?
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
Pre-existing term, and one that's becoming widely enough known that movies increasingly deal with it on some level. For instance, I was surprised to see the Square Cube Law discussed in the 2001 giant extraterrestrial spider B-movie Arachnid. Increasingly, works featuring embiggened critters or people actually try to justify it instead of just showing it.
Jet-a-Reeno!
It is a pre-existing term... but not for the trope.
It is a pre-existing term for what the trope violates.
In the bad old days, the best name for this trope might be You Fail The Square Cube Law Forever.
Drop-Dead Cynical
Zzzzzzzzzz
Rather than another new snowclone how about simply Breaking The Square Cube Law.?
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
This still reads as a Useful Note with examples of violations tacked on. Should we split?
Yeah, unwritten rule number one: follow all the unwritten procedures. - Camacan
I don't really see a problem with how the trope is titled, though it may be better suited for a useful notes page. Not really sure on that part yet.
Not really seeing the problem here. Seems like a perfectly good pre-existing term.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
Dragon Writer
Trivia? The pre-existing term doesn't match the actual trope — the trope being how said term apparently doesn't apply to fictional settings.
edited 26th Oct '11 11:26:18 PM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.![[up]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/smiles/arrow_up.png "[up]"){kind=icon}
I would like to point out that the header for the examples is "Exceptions, Aversions, and Lampshadings". The trope is two steps ahead of you here.
How about cutting parts of the description? It is way to long.
I problem I see is, that the examples aren't exceptions and aversions. They are instances when writers mention the Square-Cube Law instead of ignoring it like it is usually done.
Not all examples involve mentions of the law in the work, many are just listing big animals/people and justifying them because they're magical, deities, superpowered or gods. This needs serious pruning.
edited 26th Oct '11 11:48:43 PM by Gillespie
[The rest was unintelligible.]
I tried to wrote a shorter more focused desription: Square-Cube Law. Feel free to correct all spelling/grammer mistakes.
Zzzzzzzzzz
fixed.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
I like that.
That's a very nice revision — it passes the "explain this to me like I'm a four-year-old" test. (Well, maybe not literally, but you know what I mean.)
What index(es) should this be added to? [EDIT: Never mind, didn't notice the Sandbox namespace.]
edited 27th Oct '11 3:04:57 PM by Embryon
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And even if it is broke, just ignore it and maybe it'll be sort of OK — like the environment."The rewrite does look cleaner and easier to parse.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
It seems that that the rewrite is supported, so I changed the page. I removed the !!Exceptions, Aversions, and Lampshading note, because the rewrite is about the law, and not about works ignoring it.
Is the page fixed then?
Dragon Writer
^^ If the page is about the law as opposed to its representation (or lack thereof) in fiction, I call Trivia.
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
It isn't. I'd say the page is OK now.
On the discussion page
, there's a remark about the title being confusing and suggesting possible renames; this got me to thinking and, looking over the page, the examples don't really seem to belong on the same page as the description, which seems like it belongs under Useful Notes while the examples would, for the most part, seem more at home under something like "Impossible Giant". However, Yellow Lime's other proposed name, "King Kong Paradox" seems like it could reasonably hold the article intact, provided the description gets some work done to more closely integrate it with the trope it's supposed to be discussing. As it stands, I'd favor a split.
EDIT: Trope link.
edited 26th Jun '11 9:51:11 PM by BioTube