Pro-Life horror flick

@Aondeug: when I see you in this thread I wonder how a Buddhist pro-life horror flick would look. Or pro-choice, for that matter.

A rich man who spends all of his money on stupid shit and never helps people gets in a car accident and reincarnates as a cockroach. The kicker is thats done in the first 5 minutes and the rest of the film is watching the perspective of a horrified cockroach getting chased and eventually killed.

I realize thats not about pro life or whatever, or if Buddhism even believes in reincarnation but I liked the thought so I'll stick with it dammit!

edited 9th Jun '11 5:15:40 PM by Thorn14

There'd be a good deal of that kamma thing being mentioned I am sure. Pro-life would likely be filled with a metric fuckton of victim blaming based on kamma and the precepts.

Pro-choice films would likely exploit the situational nature of Buddhist ethics. Things are to be judged by circumstance, intention, action, and result (both immediate and long term) to decide whether or not it is morally acceptable in Buddhism. Obviously this isn't always done.

And maybe we could have some Bodhisatta involved. Like Guanyin who is often compared to The Virgin Mary (some go so far as to believe Mary is an incarnation of Guanyin).

And there'd be cutesy cartoon art.

^We believe in reincarnation in a way yes. The soul is composed of little soul bits that break down after death and mingle with other soul bits until they create a new soul. This new soul has the memories and abilities and flaws of the old beings, but it has your consciousness. We also believe that this is what happens to the physical body upon death. Matter and souls, which may just be another form of matter, are reused.

edited 9th Jun '11 5:18:00 PM by Aondeug

ADDENDUM TO THE ALTERNATE ALTERNATE ENDING:

"Well," says the preacher, stroking his beard thoughtfully, "Looks like you're gonna have to knock up another girl again, Satan!"

The handsome teenage boy smirked and raised his finger to his chin. "That won't be a problem, Father. We have special agents all over the country in key positions, all poised to make sure that the Antichrist will be born. We will not fail."

The preacher's wife nodded in agreement. "Oh, we've made sure of that. Our agents have worked tirelessly to make sure that abstinence-only education is taught in all our schools. With no knowledge of birth control and only the fear of doing something forbidden to 'keep them in check', they won't be able to resist their teenage hormonal desires for the opposite sex..."

"... Which provides the key opportunity for me to woo a desperately horny young girl and impregnate her," finished Satan. "Yes, I know the drill. We've tried this how many times before, only to have the girl try to fall down the stairs, quaff mixtures of strange and dangerous substances, even sticking coat hangers up her-"

"Ah- I know what you mean, but this time it will be different," said the preacher. "One of the previous problems with our program was that a certain number of 'bicurious' teens figured out that they couldn't get pregnant if they only had sex with their own gender. Our agents had to adapt the curriculum to add that homosexuality is 'unnatural', and if they engage in such acts, they'll die alone in the streets of AIDS!"

The preacher's wife looked confused. "But I thought that promoting homosexuality was one of our main goals," she began, "Or did I miss the memo?"

Satan furrowed his brow. "Sometimes," he said solemnly, "Sacrifices have to be made for the greater goal."

"Hmm, yes, sacrifices..." nodded the preacher's wife.

"But in the end, we will be victorious," said the preacher. "It has been predicted in Revelations that the Antichrist will rule the world, and that Satan is the king of the Earth!"

In unison, the preacher and his wife declared, "HAIL SATAN!"

The preacher's wife began to speak again in hushed tones. "There's a young girl who happens to be a member of my husband's flock... she's your next target..."

edited 9th Jun '11 5:32:00 PM by LilPaladinSuzy

Oh god...That's hilarious.

the absurdity of that addendum makes me giggle

So I didn't butcher the concepts of your religion? Sweet!

I may of dreamed it, but I vaguely remember there being a film about a mentally unstable christian women who falls pregnant to rape and then starts hearing the fetus talking to her and convinces her not to have an abortion.

It a comedy.

And we actually have stories that we tell people, either from our various fables and fairy tales or from our religious canon, that have scenarios like that which you described. These stories don't seem to often be told by the monks at the temple I go to though. From what I've noticed anyway. They prefer nicer sounding stories it seems with less focus on punishment and related things.

edited 9th Jun '11 5:43:34 PM by Aondeug

Hmm, weird

*shrugs*

edited 9th Jun '11 5:45:22 PM by joeyjojo

A goodly satire!

Since it hasn't been brought up yet...

"Died on the operating table?" WTF? What exactly do the filmmakers think an early-term abortion involves? Just to be clear, if they had seven months to go before giving birth, we're talking something on the same order of invasiveness as...oh...a routine pelvic exam. A local would do for anesthesia. What did these women die of, exactly?

It's ostensibly a thinly-veiled propaganda piece, and propaganda never runs on anything close to logic.

One I can recall very well because it was the first of that sort I had ever read was about a pig farmer. He treated the pigs he raised like shit often not feeding them properly and beating them for little reason. He'd tie their legs to four long, strong poles and suspend them in the air while he beat them to make them look fatter. He would then kill the animal by pouring boiling water down their throats. Beyond this he would also sell his meat for high prices and swindle people.

Then one day he got sick. It wasn't bad at first, but then he became unable to walk. All he could do was crawl. Then his eyesight went followed by his voice. He could only make grunting noises like his pigs. The townspeople did not come to his aid and he starved to death grunting like a pig. The reasoning for why they did not come varies from "They knew and just really hated him" to "They did not know and just thought it was one of his pigs".

On topic: I have no idea, Karalora...

Stopped reading there. Also we have better things to do than flamebait with scarecrows.

It was a parody meant to be as ridiculously outlandish as the film it was poking fun at. Both live on straw men.

edited 9th Jun '11 5:55:37 PM by LilPaladinSuzy

To be fair there are people who are actually like that.

Poe's Law, indeed.

I think the truly scary thing was that someone put up the money to make this.

I mean, damn not even Lifetime is as anvilicious.

I take it you haven't see Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life then?

edited 9th Jun '11 6:36:10 PM by joeyjojo

There are also plenty of people who think the entire faith and/or denomination is like that.

No need to feed a Poe this heated.

...T His is either the most offensive movie plot ever or absolute proof that the pro-life side of the debate really needs to stop the wackjobs from ever getting to say a word.

The producers are well-known extreme pro-lifers. Like, one of the worst kinds of "pro-life" ever. A Vocal Minority if you will.

True...

It's a B movie. Nothing to write home about.