Think of the mooks!
Bitter memories whenever most tropers sees the trope page?
I feel like I've seen it a million times before... but all of the examples I can think of are personal ones.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Burn
I'm pretty sure Spider-Man 3 had Mary Jane say it to Peter.
Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. LIVE.
It's something of an Undead Horse Trope in that Played With variations of the trope have migrated away and become tropes in their own. That might have something to do with it.
Rhymes with "Protracted."
How is it different from Just Friends?
Edit: It clearly is, but the names are awfully similar...
edited 3rd Jun '11 2:11:16 AM by nrjxll
What's the point of bringing this into Trope Repair Shop? Are over a dozen examples and twenty-odd Wicks somehow not enough?
I see the Awesomeness.
For something this common? Yeah, I'm bringing it up because I'm not sure what is wrong with it. It seems to have a good name.
Fight smart, not fair.
edited 3rd Oct '11 7:47:14 PM by Zyffyr
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The problem is that this is a line of dialogue that hasn't been pinned to a particular trope. It's used in a number of different ways.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
This is why Stock Phrases don't make great tropes. I do think that there's a core trope here. The trope being "Two characters break up with one of them wanting them to be friends rather than lovers." But I don't think the phrase is important.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Dragon Writer
Err, nope, not the same.
edited 3rd Oct '11 8:31:37 PM by Stratadrake
An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.
Honestly, this tends to be averted or subverted a lot, but I can't remember many works in which it is played straight.
"You want to see how a human dies? At ramming speed." - Emily Wong.
The Other Troper
Berserk Abridged, and some other works, calls this The Friend Box.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Lost in Space
And we call it Just Friends. The trope here is a Stock Phrase that has no independent meaning. Cut it.
Edit: Actually, I think it's Better as Friends.
edited 4th Oct '11 11:53:28 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
The Other Troper
The description makes it look like a line used in breakups, but this is now more often used as not even starting a relationship because a girl just doesn't think of a guy in a romantic sense.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
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This is a dialogue line that could be used in conjunction with several tropes we already have. I vote for shifting any examples that should be in another trope to the correct page then cutting this.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
The Other Troper
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No, that's more Alice knows they could be more than friends, but doesn't want to go further. What I mean is that being more than friends doesn't seem to occur to Alice to be more than friends, to Bob's chagrin.
The Other Troper
This would be more specific. It would be that Character A just thinks of Character B as a Friend/Brother/Sister, and that is why A doesn't have greater feelings for B.
I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Jupiterian Local
Isn't that Like Brother and Sister?
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
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Looking at the number of possible other tropes that could fit into this one, I'm more convinced that it simply isn't distinct enough and should be cut.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Jupiterian Local
Seems to be identical to I Don't Want to Ruin Our Friendship.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Seriously, I'm sure it pops up in romance all the time.
Fight smart, not fair.