First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Call me Stick
Yeah, that should absolutely be a trope.
Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
This is a title.
It already is. Being Good Sucks.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Call me Stick
Oh that. Yeah.
Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
If there tenured it can be about impossible legally, pair in the union as mentioned previously and teachers are surprisingly hard to fire if they have been around for a while.
indefinite suspension can acomplish the same thing with much less legal hoops, even if it is much less satisfying. :/
edited 9th Mar '18 8:01:55 PM by Imca
By the way, anyone gonna do a Useful Notes on the Atlantic Slave Trade? As bad as it was, it was still an important event in Africa and North America, after all.
I worry that starting one is going to attract a certain kind of person.....
not that we shouldn't because like you said its important, but if we do we are going to need to watch it....
Anka Aquila
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I think it should be done with some help of the moderators but it still must be mentioned since that event affected both Africa and America in many different ways.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
And it's not like we are against making Useful Notes about controversial but important events like that as long as it's properly moderated. We have one for the Holocaust, after all.
edited 9th Mar '18 10:38:05 PM by Wariolander
Fair enough, what mod would we get?
The one for the Holocaust is likely badly in need of clean up I'll note. A lot of the edits were made by a troper who a) liked to present himself as a historical expert despite being nothing of the sort and b) was banned for Stalin apologia. Perhaps some changes have been made since then, but last time I looked, much of the page was still his work.
Long story short, I second the efforts to create a page for Atlantic slave trade very, very carefully.
edited 9th Mar '18 10:44:53 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
I'd say Fighteer. I don't know if I'm going to contribute to this much, though. I'm a bit squeamish and paranoid that I'll accidentally word something wrong.
edited 9th Mar '18 11:08:01 PM by Wariolander
(That Guy You Met Once)
I love how that fucking guy is the one handing out any dating advice. He's clearly raking in women with a face like that.
Edit: I still have it open in another tab, and every time I see that picture, it gets funnier.
edited 12th Mar '18 12:15:06 AM by Wheezy
Project progress: The Adroan (102k words), The Pigeon Witch, (40k). Done but in need of reworking: Yume Hime, (50k)
The Mod with the Migraine
While this thread usually focuses on American racism, Britain had their "hold my beer" moment recently with a batch of anonymous letters encouraging people to participate in "Punish a Muslim Day." Some letters mailed to muslim homes and businesses. Full article text
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Racist assholes should be punished with the Hat Of Discipline.
Call me Stick
That's insulting to Vice- Admiral Holdo!
By the way, I made a small paragraph mentioning the origin of most African-Americans and Caribs in the Africa page. You can take a look to make sure it's OK and add some more info if you wish.
edited 12th Mar '18 8:19:27 PM by Wariolander
Some news broke out that the UN is investigating on whether Facebook can be held accountable for not policing it since posts were seen to incite hate against the minorities in Myanmar.
Impossible Gender Forge
Oh damn, I wonder how that'll go.
At any rate: (The Grio) Black pregnant mom incarcerated by Stand Your Ground law
Last July, while she and her toddler were visiting her mother, Siwatu was confronted by a neighbor. The neighbor rammed her vehicle into Siwatu’s car while her two-year old was inside and then tried to use the vehicle to run Siwatu and her mother over. Fearing for their lives, Siwatu, who is a licensed concealed gun owner, held her weapon in plain sight, hoping it would stop her neighbor from running them over.
The weapon was unloaded and no one was hurt. Siwatu didn’t have any intention of using it. She was not engaging or thinking of engaging in deadly force. All she wanted to do was to protect herself and her family and defend herself without causing injury to any other person.
Michigan has a specific law, popularly known as the Stand Your Ground law to protect people who act by using a firearm to defend themselves from another person who they believe is going to cause unlawful harm to them if there is “an honest and reasonable belief that force is imminent.” However, instead of the law working for Siwatu, it was used against her.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
We always know that said law was only for white people using guns, but this is ridiculous.
edited 13th Mar '18 6:23:03 AM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
So a black woman uses the law in possibly the safest and most justified case possible (an unloaded gun to deter someone trying to hurt a pregnant woman, a child, and an elder in, as far as is mentioned in the article, an unprovoked attack), and of course she gets sent to jail.
They're not even trying to hide anymore.
It's been fun.
Oh, bother.
The whole argument from the prosecution apparently was that she couldn't have really been scared. Because black women can't be scared, just angry. The only thing more infuriating than the prosecution making that argument was that it worked.
You know that if she was white she would have been lauded as a hero or something and held up as a role model by the NRA.
edited 13th Mar '18 6:43:21 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
Well, this is just.....nice, pretty fucking nice, ughhh..
Something I have notice in US and probably other place is that White people have this "citizen first" mentality were they are consider by the defeaut a "proper" citizen, sometimes by virtues of being white, sometimes male and heterosexual, meaning they are individualized to such extent were they become just regular person WHO just happen to do a bad thing at random.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Shin Megami Tensei IV
And of course, it dont matters if White people kill more people overall. The problem is always the minorities.
Well fuck this. We are basically a third world country when it comes to fairly representing minorities. As long as Republicans are in charge and figures like Trump are in the white house this will keep happening.
I don't blame anybody who wants to leave for Canada. Sometimes I feel like this country isn't worth fixing, because you know the white woman who tried to run her over will be considered a hero and probably given a parade by Republicans.
I agree with the notion that they should fire him outright, especially if his contract is about to expire, you want people to understand that this sort of thing is not tolerable at any level.
Also, should I try to make a trope page for that? Good Is Hard sounds like a good counterpart for Evil Is Easy.
edited 9th Mar '18 3:47:37 PM by raziel365
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.