First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
There are plenty of Vietnamese I know call Asians as "yellow skinned people."
Even the Vietnamese flag colors signifies (other than a Communist knock off) red blood and yellow skin.
Where there's life, there's hope.
Something interesting I came across in my news feeds today:
Exclusive: Florida Public School Teacher Has A White Nationalist Podcast
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a99ae32e4b089ec353a1fba
Quick version: A Florida middle school social studies teacher has been outed as the host of a white supremacist podcast called "Unapologetic". As of yesterday, at least, she's been removed from the classroom once the district was made aware.
An excerpt:
In the same episode, Volitich boasted about bringing her white nationalist beliefs into the classroom and hiding her ideology from administrators. She said that when parents complained to the school’s principal about how she is injecting political bias into the classroom, Volitich lied to the principal and said it was not true.
“She believed me and backed off,” she said.
Volitich also agreed with her guest’s assertion that more white supremacists need to infiltrate public schools and become teachers. “They don’t have to be vocal about their views, but get in there!” her guest said. “Be more covert and just start taking over those places.”
“Right,” Volitich said. “I’m absolutely one of them.”
edited 5th Mar '18 8:19:46 AM by sgamer82
"I'm going to openly admit being a racist, far-right agitator, and lying to my superiors about it, on an easily accessible podcast. This will have no consequences for me whatsoever."
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Oh, bother.
Not just admitting it. Boasting about it. That's some hubris right there. And we all know what follows hubris.
edited 5th Mar '18 8:28:40 AM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprised
The law in the night
White Supremacists aren't a group known for their intellectual prowess, nor about keeping their mouths shut.
Inter arma enim silent leges
She was using an alias, albeit one that was mostly an anagram of her actual name. Where she lives and worked was something Huff post worked out.
The irony of using an alias to run a podcast called "unapologetic" is extremely amusing ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
Would that it were so simple.
Glad that pig was thrown out of the school. The far right cannot have a foothold in the education system.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
Sadly, there are any number of them that are hard to find, not having tbeir own podcasts.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
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This guy didn't even tried to hide it
That's a good new, I guess
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How I did forget that part? Yeah, I would have fired him ASAP.
edited 9th Mar '18 7:46:31 AM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
Only suspended?
Why isn't he fired? Why is it so hard to fire bad teachers?
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Dunno, probably some variation of Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom
I hope
edited 9th Mar '18 8:49:19 AM by KazuyaProta
Watch me destroying my country
Jupiterian Local
Suspension is frequently used as a first reaction to get a teacher out of the classroom immediately before getting their bureaucratic ducks in a row to fire them permanently.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Well, in some cases, I think mercy shouldn't be on the table.
I don't think mercy is part of that equation. It's more "get them out now, remove them permanently later"
Jupiterian Local
It's not about mercy. It's about doing it right so you don't open yourself up to wrongful termination lawsuits and the like. Especially since, as a teacher, there's likely a union involved, so the guy being suspended automatically has representation available.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
United Earth
God, I would hate to be the Union attorney stuck with that job.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Jupiterian Local
If they're clearly in the wrong, the union can usually choose not to dispute the termination. But just having to go through the union to say "hey, you gonna fight this or not?" adds to the process.
Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
The article did say that he's being transferred to a non-teaching position for the rest of the year, and that his contact expires in a few months. Whole lot easier to just not rehire him.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
The Mod with the Migraine
Easier, maybe - but better?
Good Is Hard? Is that a trope? The only way we're going to get assholes like this to understand that their racism is wrong is to punish them the right way, even if it's harder. If they just don't renew his contract, he can go on and get hired to teach kids somewhere else by honestly stating "my contract expired." If he gets fired for "spouting racist BS in class" that's going to be much harder for him to conceal from future employers.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Screaming Into The Void
They should definitely fire him, but any employer who considers hiring him from now on is at least going to Google search his name and find out what he's done. He won't just be able to pretend it didn't happen.
Yeah, and have fun getting a good reference now.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
edited 4th Mar '18 7:14:15 PM by Fourthspartan56
"Sandwiches are probably easier to fix than the actual problems" -Hylarn