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First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.

With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.

First, a few starter questions.

  • How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
  • Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
    • Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
  • Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
  • Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?

Also, a personal question from me.

  • Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?

edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#11201: Jun 9th 2016 at 12:09:33 PM

It's interesting that the gap seemed to be greater for black men compared to black women. It seems t hat the pre-existing gender bias actually grows when the men are black. I suspect that it's connected to the angry blackk man stereotype.

edited 9th Jun '16 12:11:16 PM by Silasw

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#11202: Jun 9th 2016 at 2:40:29 PM

Forgive my mind for going there, but can you imagine a show like The Sopranos but with The Wire-style black gangsters?

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#11203: Jun 9th 2016 at 3:00:27 PM

[up]I am throwing my empty wallet on the screen but nothing is happening.

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PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#11204: Jun 9th 2016 at 3:22:22 PM

Fill the wallet with money and try again

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#11205: Jun 9th 2016 at 3:29:18 PM

Sure, can you give me some?

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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hamza678 Red Like Santa from Christmas Beacon. Since: May, 2015
RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Bird mom
#11208: Jun 9th 2016 at 6:42:36 PM

One thing I credit that movie for is getting it's ecology right. An island population of birds more often than not becomes flightless, which leaves them highly vulnerable to mainline predators such as cats, snakes, rats, and yes pigs.

Of course though the racists can't tell the difference between an invasion of predatory animals and foreigners. Even in the movie Red recognized that it would be fine if they were just moving there (provided they did something to compensate him for his home) it's that they were lying about so many things that he had reason to be suspicious.

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Imca (Veteran)
#11209: Jun 9th 2016 at 6:49:43 PM

The racists see the forigners as an invasion of predatory animals dear, its not that they cant tell the diffrence, its that thats how they actualy see them.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#11210: Jun 9th 2016 at 7:06:57 PM

After reading a review that pointed out the Unfortunate Implications of the movie, I was expecting it to happen.

Not something I'm happy about, but then not much could be done.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#11211: Jun 9th 2016 at 7:33:28 PM

I kinda feel like I have to see the movie now, if only to have some context on this.

edited 9th Jun '16 7:37:58 PM by PhysicalStamina

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#11212: Jun 9th 2016 at 7:46:48 PM

Don't waste your money on it, the trailer pretty much had all the funny parts.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#11213: Jun 9th 2016 at 10:56:15 PM

It was decent. And you need not pay to see it. There are... perfectly LEGAL means...

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war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Grr... <3
#11214: Jun 10th 2016 at 6:17:46 AM

I doubt there is anything wrong with the movie, beyond being a tie in movie for a game I have no interest in.

If anything, this seems more of an anti-immigration parable than a racist parable. Not that it is either. But anti-immigration, though usually racist, is quite different. I know at least one person who opposes open immigration for strictly economic reasons.

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#11215: Jun 10th 2016 at 9:55:10 AM

Less than 5 month after Phil Anselmo got himself in trouble for making a Nazi salute at Dimebash, his YouTube channel was spotted subscribing to a white supremacist YouTube channel.

So not only is the guy a unrepentant bigot, he's a dumb bigot.

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#11216: Jun 10th 2016 at 10:07:57 AM

Hey, I subscribe to evil accounts and pages too. It's always interesting to see the bigot mindset in action, when they thing they're among themselves.

And, like a broken watch, they're right twice a day or so. We've got assholes on the progressive side too.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#11217: Jun 10th 2016 at 10:10:45 AM

[up]Sure, but do you do so on a publicly traceable account you can't use Plausible Deniability on?

I have disagreed with her a lot, but comparing her to republicans and propagandists of dictatorships is really low. - An idiot
AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#11218: Jun 10th 2016 at 10:11:58 AM

Well I can't say I haven't subscribed to Alex Jones channel just to see what that idiot is up to.

But for Phil? Nope, he's a clear cut bigot.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11219: Jun 17th 2016 at 3:49:40 PM

Three white 12 year old boys wrapped a rope around a black girl's neck and dragged her to the ground in Texas. This happened on a school trip. The girl's parents weren't notified and the school alleges it's nothing but an accident.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11220: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:20:30 AM

How does one "accidentally" put rope around someone else's neck and drag her down?

See, if memory serves physical altercations are not that uncommon at the schools I went to. But this one has clearly racist undertones (it just feels like a re-enactment of lynching, both in terms of procedure and skin colours) and seems fairly dangerous to me as well.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PhysicalStamina (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#11221: Jun 19th 2016 at 3:52:27 AM

One more reason not to set foot in Texas.

It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#11222: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:33:26 AM

Yeah, it doesn't feel like an accident to me either. An why didn't they take her to the hospital?

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#11223: Jun 19th 2016 at 9:19:21 AM

Take a guess

Oh really when?
war877 Grr... <3 from Untamed Wilds Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Grr... <3
#11224: Jun 19th 2016 at 9:22:38 AM

They didn't want to pay the ambulance bill and really wanted to get sued.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11225: Jun 19th 2016 at 9:38:06 AM

Or they didn't see that injury as dangerous. Assuming good faith here, though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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