First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
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Like most Scandinavian countries, Sweden does have a small but highly feared neo-Nazi presence. Stieg Larssen (the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo guy) founded an anti fascist magazine for a reason.
What's precedent ever done for us?
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Holy shit.
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Yeah, it's quite a history. Mind you, Modern Slavery still exists in the UK, with both immigrants and Britons being enslaved, most notably by Irish Travellers.
edited 12th Jul '15 1:41:10 PM by Greenmantle
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Party Crasher
Comment sections on The Guardian are always such a cesspit.
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
United Earth
??????????????!!!!!!!!!!
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Take, for example, Operation Netwing
or this BBC Report, and also this article which covers Modern day slavery in the UK in greater detail, including details of several convictions.
edited 12th Jul '15 2:10:50 PM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On
Indeed. Sadly, the same is true of almost every major newspaper and news websites around the world.
It's why I mostly stick to economics/financial news or sport nowadays when going to The Guardian.
edited 12th Jul '15 2:29:42 PM by Quag15
Party Crasher
Even when looking at those you have to be careful. You don't want to see the comments under an article about the current European Debt Crisis and/or the social-economic differences between the North and the South. You just don't.
Though the worst topic, by far, is immigration.
edited 12th Jul '15 2:37:19 PM by LogoP
It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
True, you have a point. One can't be too careful enough when dealing with those topics' comments section.
edited 12th Jul '15 2:42:48 PM by Quag15
Racism causes psychological and physical damage that can cross generations. There are many more studies I can link to, but this is a good start.
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I don't know, but I think the use of the term "brown people", normally by Americans, feels racist to me because it's not precise enough. It's just a vague feeling that leaves me uncomfortable.
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Well that's because to the average racist American there is little distinction between the "brown people". There's only four types of nonwhite people here. Black, Brown, Asian, and Mexican.
edited 16th Jul '15 9:26:44 AM by LeGarcon
Oh really when?
Queen of Good Things, Honest
And the latter only gets its own category because we have such a national outrage over them.
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Well they ARE taking yer jerbs.
The ones you do not want, that is.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
there is a diferent: the brown people blow out, the other one just trade drug and jump walls very well
edited 16th Jul '15 10:12:02 AM by unknowing
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Queen of Good Things, Honest
The U.S. to Mexicans: "Go back to yer own country! Oh, but before you do that, why not buy some guns for the road? I accept payment in narcotics."
edited 16th Jul '15 10:16:56 AM by TobiasDrake
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"I don't know, but I think the use of the term "brown people", normally by Americans, feels racist to me because it's not precise enough. It's just a vague feeling that leaves me uncomfortable."
Funny, we like to use it for that very reason. Everyone is really Mexican at heart, beginning with the brown people, but in each and every one of you. You all just don't know it yet. 
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Funny.
Way I see it, Mexicans are Americans.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Absolutely no relation to NLK
I gave up being anal about that distinction long ago.
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Depends on whether we're talking about those that remained in the US after annexation, and those that came from South of the Border afterwards (and their descendents).
These are some really stupid distinctions, given that this is a country made of immigrants.
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I think he meant than in spanish american means "from the continental mass", not "from the US".
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Seriously. In my city, we had an uproar over an initiative to add Spanish subtitles to traffic signs and the like. I don't even remember what it was anymore, but the sheer outrage over it was astronomical. I heard and read a lot of opinions saying the same thing: if you want to speak Spanish then go back to Mexico and get your evil foreign language out of Colorado!
FUN FACT: The state Colorado gets its name from the Colorado River which, in turn, gets its name from a Spanish word meaning "colored red." If you want to ban the Spanish language from our state, you can start with the f*cking name.
edited 16th Jul '15 12:57:39 PM by TobiasDrake
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As far I know colorado will be colored, in fact the old racist slang against black is pretty much the same.
I dont know, you and your country are really weird
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A nice butterfly
"Colorado" just means "Colored", actually. Not specifically "red colored".
As for me getting anal about the distinction...well. I like it for two reasons:
- Hehe. Anal.
- It pisses yankees to no end when they are not recognized as the only Americans.
edited 16th Jul '15 1:03:58 PM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Sweden seems to me to be increasingly divided (but with most of it still firmly in the pro-immigration camp), in terms of immigration rhetorics, especially in regards to non-European (or even non-EU) people. Most of the media are firmly biased like in every country (leading to genuine, non-racist criticism of immigration getting shut down or silenced), and integration, while it has been positive and well-made in most areas, there are a few which do have serious problems (economical, for the most part), which lead to a more difficult integration.
Just my 2 cents, as an outsider.
edited 7th Jul '15 2:05:14 PM by Quag15