Wiki Leaks Threaten's It's Leakers with a 20 million Dollar Fine

NDA Wiki Leaks

The reason. They may loose the opportunity to sell the information.

Just release the data already.

edited 12th May '11 11:56:50 AM by TuefelHundenIV

Isn't that kind of like coal calling the kettle black...?

I would think so.

Julian just gets scuzzier every day.

Stay classy, Assange. Stay classy.

I can't see this being good for Wikileaks credibility.

Then why would you leak to WikiLeaks?

They don't, actually, explicitly threaten their employees with that fine. They simply state a guess at the value of some of that information, probably to add teeth to an injunction should anyone attempt to leak.

Since they do have a policy of e.g. redacting names of low-ranking people in dangerous situations, there is a purpose to restricting access to the raw information.

Morven: I highly doubt it is for that. Considering mr Assange released a trove of unredacted information not all that long ago.

The money frame fits and they have tried to sell info before. It doesn't take as long as they have had some info to redact names and identifiers.

In fact I am highly suspicious of this move added in with the media clause of course.

edited 12th May '11 3:15:33 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Y'all know I don't approve of Wiki-Leaks in the first place, but they are at least tolerable without them making a business out of it by selling information. That's really dangerous territory Assange is wading into.

@Tuefel: Possibly. It's the case, though, that the confidentiality agreement in question doesn't directly threaten a fine. It just mentions twelve million UK Pounds as being the estimated value of that information.

@Barkey: agreed. Also, the irony of it is delightful.

They have also threatened to sue before stating they have a vested monetary interest in the information when one news agency gave another access.

So, how long till Assange turns into the Shadow Broker?

^

Was waiting to see how long that would take.

The solution, obviously, is to create a Wiki Leaks Leaks wiki that smuggles information out of them.

taoist: I swear that is damn near a great idea.

So it's alright for Wikileaks to leak OTHER people's secret info, but not okay for their own stuff to be leaked?

What the fuck. Well my contempt for those Wikileak clowns grows every day.

I remember when people were arguing that Assange would've made a far more credible TIME Person of the Year than Mark Zuckerberg, even though we all knew that a farce was set in place because... well, farces had already been set in place before that.

It's just a shame that the journalists involved, whomever they're working for, have to follow it all up. They end up being at the mercy of people who claimed "groundbreaking information" was due around January at the peak. The most groundbreaking of related information envelopes the ever-lame press wars over who gets to cover it first and foremost, with chucks of cash (potentially) involved.

Or who doesn't get to cover it, as this thing may end up being.

edited 12th May '11 6:45:30 PM by TheSollerodFascist

-ignore mis-read the post-

edited 12th May '11 11:28:41 PM by Vyctorian

The way I figure it, Wiki Leaks will probably be replaced in time with a similar organization.

One with less bad press, but an essentially identical stated function.

I see what you did there.

edited 13th May '11 12:07:50 AM by deathjavu

Well, nothing too see over there.

Then they'll have to buy the information. In short, Wiki Leaks has changed from a nonprofit dedicated to political and corporate scrutiny, but an independent information broker, or even an independent intelligence agency.

Sci-fi ish.

As usual, people fail at critical reading. The article lies. The name of this thread lies. Wikileaks doesn't threaten leakers with a 20 million dollars fine. The expected damage of a significant leak is 20 million dollar(part 5). That's a huge difference. The only legal threat is in part 8, naming injunction and interim orders, but no fine.

It annoys me to no end that people are so ready to buy any bullshit if only it happens to support their point of view.

Though I'm not happy with the emphasize on information selling and economic damages in this agreement either, and from my point of view it sheds a negativ light on wikileaks, the statement in the thread title is a freakin lie.

That's directly from the confidentiality agreement, which also makes the leaker agree that the leaks are solely WikiLeaks' property. The only reason I can see for including this statement is so WikiLeaks can sue anyone who breaks the agreement. And since the leaker has already agreed that the information is worth millions, it makes suing them for an obscene amount of money that much easier.

edited 13th May '11 5:49:19 AM by LadyMomus

Hmmm, let me know when we decide to breach the door on his compound.

^^
I could argue against that interpretation in detail, but I don't have to. Nowhere in the agreement is written that Wiki Leaks threatens leakers with a fine. A fact. Period. So the thread title is a lie.

Even if someone would be sued relying on part 5 of the agreement, it wouldn't be a fine, it would be compensation.