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Forzare Reason and Madness from Hinamizawa Since: Sep, 2011
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#1: May 10th 2011 at 3:35:01 PM

Apparently the world is going to end on May 21.

I think this is my favorite part of the article.

But religious scholars point out that while Camping and his group might be amusing — even interesting — their message has no factual basis. Thomas Groome, a professor of theology and religious education at Boston College, said Camping's math doesn't make sense.

"In the Gospel of Matthew, it says we know not the day or hour; only God knows the End time," he said. "Camping's calculations are totally contrived. He kind of says a thousand years must be equal to a day and multiply that by the number of floods. ... It's all so bizarre. If God doesn't tell the angels, he certainly doesn't tell Harold Camping."

Why are people so determined to find the exact date of the end of the world? What makes them so convinced that the arbitrary code that they've just made up to find a date is more valid than the other arbitrary codes people have "found" in the Bible?

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#2: May 10th 2011 at 3:41:09 PM

Well, see, people don't want to think about the world outlasting them.

Because you see, they're just that important.

nightwyrm_zero Since: Apr, 2010
#3: May 10th 2011 at 4:02:30 PM

Well, that solves my whole problem of finding a job after graduation.

Neo_Crimson Your army sucks. from behind your lines. Since: Jan, 2001
Your army sucks.
#4: May 10th 2011 at 4:07:40 PM

Well, this just means that I have to wait 11 days before I can laugh my ass off at this guy.

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#5: May 10th 2011 at 4:30:38 PM

Place your bets folks! $5 buy in for the pot to predict what will happen in 11 days! House odds currently rate as 20:1 that nothing will happen that day.

edited 10th May '11 4:30:58 PM by MajorTom

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
Oh My
#6: May 10th 2011 at 4:33:52 PM

It's ending the day after my RP character's birthday? I knew she was special!

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#7: May 10th 2011 at 4:51:20 PM

House odds currently rate as 20:1 that nothing will happen that day.

I put fifty dollars on nuclear decay occurring!

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blueharp Since: Dec, 1969
#8: May 10th 2011 at 4:53:11 PM

I put one million dollars*

on the sun rising in the East.

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#9: May 10th 2011 at 5:09:48 PM

Amusingly, that's the day I'm going to Anime Central (a Chicago anime con).

To answer the question about why people like to set a date on the apocalypse, two ideas I've had. These are both just guesses:

1. Some people don't like that death is so uncertain and unpredictable so they want to be able to definitely set a date for their death without outright committing suicide.

2. In the case of Judgement Day, from what I know of the idea (which is likely to have some holes in it), it would be the ultimate wish fulfillment to go to heaven while still alive because so far as I know, are people who are taken to heaven on Judgement Day supposed to go there without having to die first? Christians, please correct me if I've messed up on that.

And in some other cases, it may be part of the fire-and-brimstone fear tactic of converting people like telling them that there's now a specific date before which they need to repent or be tortured forever.

GameChainsaw The Shadows Devour You. from sunshine and rainbows! Since: Oct, 2010
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#10: May 10th 2011 at 5:14:15 PM

Well I guess this means if I fail my exams, I can pray the apocalypse renders them irrelevant.

...and then pray to survive the apocalypse. tongue

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#11: May 10th 2011 at 5:22:13 PM

Huh. So that's what all the people with "[X] days" signs are going on about.

Camping and his followers point to three specific harbingers of their interpretation of the End: When Israel became a nation in 1948, when churches stopped following a strict interpretation of the Bible and the profound increase in "immorality and lawlessness" in our world (specifically homosexuality, they believe).

Oh come on, of all the nasty immoral things out there you pick THAT?

edited 10th May '11 5:22:29 PM by melloncollie

TheMightyAnonym PARTY HARD!!!! from Pony Chan Since: Jan, 2010
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#12: May 10th 2011 at 5:44:57 PM

How should we celebrate on the 21st?

Also, look what I made: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?month=05&day=21&year=2011&hour=&min=&sec=&p0=0

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#13: May 10th 2011 at 6:09:09 PM

Actually, Camping's May 21st theory is the Rapture and the actual end of the world is at a later date.

Just thought I'd point it out.

I had also made another thread about it, but its off the first page of the forums.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13010789360A35884800&page=1

edited 10th May '11 6:09:57 PM by tclittle

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JewelMaiden D'AWWW. from Wherever the tea is. Since: Oct, 2010
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#14: May 10th 2011 at 7:12:49 PM

The end of the world is due to happen on the day before my birthday. That's just terrible.

What I like the most about these predictions, though, is that they rule out the actual end of the world on the day they're predicted. Now I know I'll still be alive on my birthday *

.

so far as I know, are people who are taken to heaven on Judgement Day supposed to go there without having to die first? Christians, please correct me if I've messed up on that.

That's true as far as my knowledge of theology goes. Though I don't know why anyone would prefer seeing Judgement Day to dying first — the Second Coming is going to be scary. I'm guessing it's even going to be scary for Christians at first.

...however, I would prefer anything over the Zombie Apocalypse.

edited 10th May '11 7:13:21 PM by JewelMaiden

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Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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#15: May 10th 2011 at 7:21:48 PM

Too lazy to read the actual link, what time of the day is it due to happen and in what time zone? We here in NZ get to 21 May before most of you...

Depending on what time it's scheduled for, I may think I've dodged the bullet only to find it happens some time on the 22nd...

It can't possibly be the Rapture, tho' - that already happened, so there's only us damned pagans, the atheists and a bunch of False Prophets left, all the true Christians ascended ages ago - I personally said good-bye to both of them. evil grin

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#16: May 10th 2011 at 7:27:17 PM

Probably just another fool trying to predict the end.

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Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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#17: May 10th 2011 at 7:31:39 PM

Gotta love the contextual advertising - the advert across the top of a thread about the end of the world is "Escape to a bank that's already yours".

Dunno about you, but I rather doubt the bank would have any useful means of escaping TEOTWAWKI...

BTW, the 21st is my eldest son's birthday. If they decide to have the Rapture then, I wonder how many guests won't be making it.

And our party games could include "Laughing at those who turned up". Nothing takes the edge off your own doom quite like maliciously giving shit to some other poor sap who is just as screwed.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
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#19: May 10th 2011 at 7:32:26 PM

[up]Why that long, exactly?

Any way, I'm off. The world's about to end and I don't want to die a virgin.

At least, that's what I'll be telling the lasses down at the pub...

edited 10th May '11 7:33:44 PM by Wolf1066

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#20: May 10th 2011 at 7:33:37 PM

If the world ends 10 days before my birthday, I'll be pissed.

Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Crazy Kiwi
#21: May 10th 2011 at 7:34:47 PM

If it's only the Rapture, you should still be here to celebrate your birthday with the rest of us. tongue

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#22: May 10th 2011 at 7:37:53 PM

Oh my.. THAT'S THE BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT I COULD HAVE EVER ASKED FOR!

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#23: May 10th 2011 at 7:42:10 PM

Why that long, exactly?

Haven't you heard? It's the coming of the age of Aquarius! It was all predicted in the Long Count.

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Wolf1066 Crazy Kiwi from New Zealand Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Crazy Kiwi
#24: May 10th 2011 at 7:45:32 PM

OK. I thought the Age of Aquarius had already come - or at least dawned. I'm pretty sure they made quite a song and dance about it. Well, a song, at least.

Damned Christianity, you just can't rely on it to properly synchronise its end of the world with important things from other cosmologies. tongue

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#25: May 10th 2011 at 7:51:54 PM

According to the Wikipedia article it's been dated to just about every year within 1000 of now; anyway, nineteen months from May 21 is December 21, 2012, as far as I'm concerned.

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