General Tekken Thread

Its the tone Lars said it in that matters though, right?

Wouldn't call it a "mistranslation" per say, more like a loose interpretation. The general meaning is the same.

It reminds me, never played through Tekken 6's scenario mode.

edited 17th Jan '15 9:33:33 AM by Niitris

"An AE86? No fucking way!" Yeah...not quite. I remember seeing the old Castle of Cagliostro with David Hayter as the voice as well as the new dub and both have different, sometimes wildly different translations. The same were you ever to see a interview that required an interpreter, some of the more colorful comments will be brushed over and the gist would be detailed.

Is it bad to restart this thread, or should I make a sequel to this thread?

Post here, by all means. The last post is only a month old - if you want to dust the thread off to ask a question or post info, you're more than welcome.

If you have something to say, just say it.

Usually, sequel threads are for when either the thread has a specific purpose and that purpose has run out, and the sequel thread is a "round two" or a do over, if the old thread was locked and the mods say it's OK to start over, or if for whatever technical reason, the old thread is unusable.

Making a new thread for no reason other than "it fell dead for a bit" seems like a waste.

and Thanks

Anyways, here goes what I want to say: Given the fact Tekken and the Soul Series are in the same universe, think we should have Fygul Cestemus be the new antagonists should Namco Bandai go beyond 7 for the former, albeit under a new name, and with G Corporation as its front all along?

No. For one, it'd come out of nowhere and be a confusing retcon for non-Soul players and a stupid one for Soul players. The Fygul Cestemus are such a minor faction in Soul Calibur and were pretty much all but gone until V implied a resurgence in Astaroth II's bio, and retconing them to be behind G makes no sense with what we know of Fygul or G. It reeks of trying to make a connection for the sole reason of having a connection.

Soul and Tekken, same world or no, share like, a single plot point between them, and his name is Yoshimitsu. There doesn't need to be any further connection between them, and trying to force one is, well, kinda dumb and drags down both games, as they now have to conform to the plot of a unrelated game with a different theme alongside their own plot.

I'd take it you don't like Arc Welding?

But the thing about both Fygul Cestemus and G Corporation is that, when they both debuted in their respective franchises, they were irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. And in regards to G Corporation, all we know of them is that they found Kazuya's remains, and brought him back to life, making an enemy out of Heihachi and the Mishima Zaibatsu, due to the Devil Gene, which Heihachi wanted, cue G Corporation's facilities in the US and Nepal getting ransacked by the Tekken Force. Also, when I meant by "Fygul Cestemus in all but name," I meant the same organization, just no longer into worshipping the Greek Gods, and do stuff For Science!

But if there needs to be a Grand Finale, why not have any game after 7 be that for both franchises? You know, as a way to tie up loose ends. If there's Continuity Lockout to be worried about, just have tons of expostion-laden cutscenes, ala Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns Of The Patriots.

edited 28th Feb '15 8:02:52 PM by HallowHawk

The Metal Gear games are largely cinematic experiences. Fighting games can be, like the Tekken series, but even then huge cutscenes like Metal Gear would be unintuitive and not fun. Half of Metal Gear's draw is how they have these ridiculously long cutscenes - the main draw of Tekken is suplexing kangaroos and beating the crap out of giant robots.

Having to sit through 10 minutes of exposition before punching a Mexican wrestler in the face would break the flow of the game.

There is a difference between Arc Welding and "connecting two unrelated things that were never meant to be related for no reason, solely to say that you did".

Also, G Corporation's first action in the series was reviving Kazuya, and that is considered irrelevant? Really?

Also, your "modern Fygul" is pretty much a completely different organization with no ties to the original group of Ares worshiping weirdos, who are instead mad scientists. So...why are you trying to tie it to Soul Calibur? (Also, Leo's mom worked for G, if I recalled, she was one of their executives? At least a big enough name that she was a threat to Kazuya on his rise to power in the company. Not exactly a mad scientist...)

Because Soul Calibur is not Tekken. Cleaning up Soul Calibur's loss ends is Soul Calibur's job, and the canon relationship between the two games begins and ends with "Yoshimitsu". Aside from that, they are unrelated stories set in the same universe.

And no Metal Gear Solid 4 cutscenes in my game about dudes hitting each other, please.

I think any fighter could work the way Mortal Kombat 9 did, and 6's Scenario Campaign was a step in the right direction.

Otherarrow: Well, Heihachi was in Soul Calibur II for one of the versions too, but I'm not sure how canon that's considered.

About as canon as Link, Spawn, that chick from Sgt. Frog, Darth Vader, Yoda, Kratos, and one of those Assassin's Creed characters.

/shrug

I didn't know what fans of the series involved though. Heihachi at least has the excuse of being from technically the same universe, as well as being made by the same studio.

If memory serves, he has similar magical portal hand waving BS to justify his being in the game, so I don't think it's any more canonical than the other guests.

It can be argued that the 2 franchises exist on the same Earth in 2 different time periods, but aside from Yoshimitsu's presence there doesn't have to be a clear joint in franchises. A crossover because the 2 franchises exist in the same verse is one poor thing, bringing a story aspect from one of those franchises and throwing it into an otherwise completely thematically different franchise - just because they're in the same verse - is another.

There is no need for it. G-Corp is G-Corp, it doesn't have to be a zaibatsu built on the back of a god-reviving cult from the 1500's.

New question: Why are we assuming Eddy's master/Christie's grandfather bit it at the end of 6? I mean, 7 isn't out yet, and the only indication of him dying is Tag 2, which isn't canon.

Considering neither of them are confirmed to be in 7 at all....

We're not?

Also, just because Tag 2 isn't canon doesn't mean plot points from it can't reflect real canon. I mean, I'm not going to throw out the expanding of Steve and Leo's (now linked) backstories solely because it was in a Tag game.

Leo's mother, sure, but Eddy's master/Christie's grandfather is another matter.

Also, speaking of Eddy, why are we claiming "Eddy Gordo" isn't accurate for a Brazillian to have as a name? If anything, "Eddy" could be short for "Eduardo," which is an accurate Portuguese name, and "Gordo" is a fitting surname to take as an alias for a man being hunted by criminals and authorities alike.

Where the hell are you getting all these arguments from?

This on our 7 character page, specifically Katarina's section:

As to where I got the idea "Eddy is an applicable first name for a Portuguese man, here.

If I recall, Gordo is Spanish for "fat", so...

Also, Hallow Hawk is kinda infamous for coming up with inane nitpicky questions out of nowhere. Just smile and nod.

edited 10th Apr '15 11:12:49 AM by Otherarrow

But wouldn't it be fitting for an alias?