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That's the fault of those who came afterward, rather than with Watchmen itself.

I mean people say that , but that's missing an important point. Watchmen isn't just a superhero story that's very well written , it's a beast of a different nature entirely. It's a complete Deconstruction of the very ideas of the superhero.

It's the Madame Bovary of superhero comics.

Pretty much, Moore did change thing but not because he went darker, but because of the NORMALIZATION of the superhero.

I mean, how many fight there is watchmen? 5? and of all that the only one worth remenber were Ozy vs Night owl and Rosh who is pretty much crump stomp and Rosh who kill people in prision.

the plot? not really that great(something gibbons have coment) is not bad but is just...there..

But the normalization of hero, taking them as people who dress as hero to punch people(and the only super is pretty much naked) while dedicating A LOT to their backstory(really, the comit spend much about them before that what they do now) and a bunch of muggles: the comic seller, black kid who read tales, the lesbian activies and her girlfriend....

I fell what DC and Marvel got for watchmen is the costumed drama, because otherwise the comic is too painfull to superhero, Moore pretty much saw the emperor was naked and he dedicated 12 damn issues to prove it.

Turns out "DC Extended Universe" isn't the official term for DC's cinematic universe...

Note to self: never add a trademark joke.

Character profile one-sheets.

On Elfman, I get both sides really well. Excessive dependence on a past score, no matter how iconic it may be, is essentially a rearrangement rather than an original score. If Elfman is just using a couple familiar chords intermixed with the overall motif of the current theme that could work, but pausing to throw in the classic fanfare would be cheap pandering. Fans got excited to hear the Spider-Man theme integrated into the Homecoming theme (past films used it as a separate jingle within the films), but I didn't recall hearing it until the end credits.

Regarding Johns and Superman killing Zod, it was already said that a number of people were opposed to it, including Christopher Nolan. The end point was that Snyder was put in charge of the film and WB looked at him as the end voice of the film.

Wasn't the Extended Universe term attributed to Snyder in the magazine where it first appeared?

Zack Snyder explains why Justice League's aspect ratio is different than the other movies

Despite the fact that Zack Snyder loved shooting on the IMAX cameras for Batman v Superman he didn't use any on Justice League; that is because Christopher Nolan was using every IMAX camera in existence for Dunkirk.

edited 30th Sep '17 10:59:24 AM by Halberdier17

Aspect ratio can be a fascinating topic, at least for anyone interested in the mechanics of art. Originally all films were 4:3, but the rise of tv in the 50's made them offer different screen sizes to make movies a different experience. On the Waterfront was designed to be shown at different aspect ratios, 4:3 had a lot of space, making you see a lot of sky and rooftop. Widescreen cropped out all that extra space, placing emphasis on characters standing against the skyline. Letterbox drove in tighter, often cropping off the top of characters heads and making the dialogue scenes even more intimate.

Widescreen primary flaw is a reduced capacity to depict height. Larry Fong lamented that BVS cropped the IMAX footage to match the rest of the film. This meant we lost screen "real estate," in the Knightmare the fire pits just barely reached above the buildings when they were really soaring into the sky.

Stories from people who say Zack Snyder's movies helped them with their depression and suicidal thoughts

https://superherotalksite.wordpress.com/2017/09/30/zack-snyders-dc-films-helped-people-overcome-depression-suicidal-thoughts-read-their-stories-here/

Justice League cast praise Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon's work on the movie.

Ben Affleck said:

Gal Gadot said:

Jason Momoa said:

Ezra Miller talks about how the cast found out about Zack Snyder stepping away from the project:

Ben Affleck talked about Joss Whedon:

edited 2nd Oct '17 9:56:18 AM by Halberdier17

Why is that a news story? If the movie sucks and they know it, they're not gonna say that in public unless they want to risk getting blacklisted.. They're not Shia La Beouf. They actually have brains.

It was just interesting seeing their comments.

It is from the newest issue of Empire Magazine.

It does shut down the rumors from morons like Collider that said they reshot the movie three times already which is impossible to do in only 2 weeks.

Facebook Video on the costumes.

Affleck: I had the suit and then the tactical suit which was a little tighter, a little warmer. I had the glasses on, a little bit of flesh showing and they go "let's close that down."

Gadot: At least you were covered.

Ben Affleck roasts Henry Cavill's mustache

Jason Momoa added:

edited 3rd Oct '17 6:13:58 AM by Halberdier17

Empire cover◊. I love the Wolverine Publicity Wonder Woman is getting after her movie.

The official social media accounts for the Justice League movie said the new trailer will release on Sunday.

It should be the final trailer.

I feel a little bad for Henry Cavill. It's almost like "Why can't I be in any of the fun videos? Why can't I hang out and make jokes? We're not fooling anyone, everyone knows I show up."

Fans were pissed when Doomsday showed up. Those same people said they will be pissed if Superman is in the trailer. They want his appearance saved for the movie.

New posters.

I think the difference is, literally nobody thought Superman was gonna stay dead. So at this point WB continuing to hide him is kind of bizarre. The BVS trailer was criticized because it gave away way too much of the plot, not because it just reiterated stuff we already knew.

edited 4th Oct '17 9:37:49 AM by comicwriter

It's was actually sort of the opposite, the people who hated Doomsday showing up in a trailer were upset that Superman wasn't being shown. It's a catch-22 on WHAT you want to be spoiled on. The last trailer most people felt was a near perfect handling of that problem, Superman is mentioned and shown indirectly but we don't get any of his actual scenes. We know he is returning, but the trailer confirms to the audience he will have more of a presence in the story beyond showing up in the third act looking refreshed.

I imagine in the last few weeks the marketing will drop the older posters with Superman included in the line-up, and maybe some tv spots will include actual footage of him.

edited 4th Oct '17 11:56:52 AM by KJMackley

It's either her or Batman at this point really.

Are we sure people were pissed when they revealed Doomsday was "They spoiled Doomsday" and not "Fucking hell, they're using Doomsday"

And Batman had plenty of times to be front/center. It's someone else's turn. lol

No, it was definitely the spoiler aspect. At the time it was being used everywhere as the prime example in discussions about trailers giving away too much of the movie. I remember Cracked actually did a really insightful analysis of this trend and precisely why trailers do this now (long story short: the trailers are cut by people who don't actually work on the movies and usually have corporate guidelines about what they want to show off. The merchandising partners also want to be able to show off stuff that helps promote their products, like action figures.), and Batman v. Superman was very heavily featured in it.

edited 5th Oct '17 11:11:10 AM by comicwriter

It also wasn't just that they were spoiling Doomday himself, but mostly that the reveal in addition to the rest of the trailers gave away essentially the entire plot. After that point, we knew bascially everything - the setup, the battle it was all leading up to, the twists, and could figure out easily how it was all going to end.

edited 5th Oct '17 9:23:48 AM by KnownUnknown