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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
Away on the wind~
#176: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:11:22 AM

I said that!

There are too many toasters in my chimney!
LoniJay from Australia Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
#177: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:13:25 AM

Ah. So you did.

...

Be not afraid...
Dec Stayin' Alive from The Dance Floor Since: Aug, 2009
Stayin' Alive
#178: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:34:24 AM

Acknowledgment. But they will never quite get it, because people's natural reactions won't be like the voices in their head.

From there, they ether give up or strive desperately to hone the craft of communicating what they want with their words. So pretty much the plight of all artists everywhere.

Nemo enim fere saltat sobrius, nisi forte insanit Deviantart.
SPACETRAVEL from ☉ Since: Oct, 2010
#179: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:44:51 AM

Does reading a review of someone giving me emotional feedback encourage me to write? Yes. Yes it does. But at the end of the day, all it really does is stroke my ego.
Maybe we just have different ideas about what is respectful, but that comes off to me like just biting another hand. Not one that feeds, but you can say it's waving. Just waving back makes more sense to me than looking for something in it. But I think friendliness has its own value even if it's not delivered with anything else, and I'm aware that not all people agree. Not practical value, and not at all something that can be survived on alone, but something that elevates it above ego-stroking.

Also, while emotional feedback isn't technical, and while those who give it are often not even intentionally furthering your process, it is real information about how your writing functions. In writing a story, one is trying to bring out certain emotions in the readers. If you see those coming back to you in reader's responses, you know you've transmitted the feelings you meant to. If readers respond in an unexpected way, that tells you that you might want to readjust your message.

Maybe it's dance lessons when one is still learning to walk, but those who give feedback on a forum are the only ones who can ultimately choose what they give. You just do your best with what you find if your method for looking is setting your work out in public for anyone who comes by to choose to pay attention to. You've got to arrange something more formal and personal to get a more reliable source of advice—like a professional, or even just a one-on-one critique exchange between you and a friend.

whoever wrote this shit needs to step on a rake in a comedic fashion
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#180: Apr 8th 2011 at 7:51:30 AM

Fair enough, I forgot that getting the emotions you wanted were indeed helpful. I was typing without thinking, and forgot to add that yes, emotional responses can be very helpful. Well, I did say that, I just forgot to say it right.

I guess from personal experience, I find that emotional responses say to me "yeah, I am good at this! I wanna write some more!" while technical responses say to me "whuh-oh, I messed up. Time to work on that." And that's just my experience, and I should have clarified that.

Actually, I shouldn't have even said that. I should have said that positive responses are usually kinda ego stroking, to me, while the negative ones are not. Since to me, any type of emotional response at all is considered a positive thing, because of my tendency of not easily investing in a story emotionally, I associated the two without realizing.

That was my bad. Keep in mind though, ego stroking isn't inherently bad. It's how you react to it that leads to bad things.

I stick by the rest of my point though.

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#181: Apr 8th 2011 at 9:49:06 AM

Brain: Ten minutes till class starts, so let's make minuscule edits to an unfinished piece!
Me: OKAY :D *edits*

edited 8th Apr '11 9:50:07 AM by Leradny

SPACETRAVEL from ☉ Since: Oct, 2010
#182: Apr 8th 2011 at 1:46:30 PM

I guess from personal experience, I find that emotional responses say to me "yeah, I am good at this! I wanna write some more!"
Ah. Sometimes, an emotional response says to me "yikes; that's something I didn't mean".

whoever wrote this shit needs to step on a rake in a comedic fashion
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#183: Apr 8th 2011 at 1:57:33 PM

I unfortunately had a pretty small reading circle, so I've never been er...lucky enough...to experience an emotional SNAFU. It's usually just an emotion was laid on a bit too thick, or a bit too thin.

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Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
Hurr
#184: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:13:34 PM

So um...I have these two...ideas, you could say. I think it would be interesting to make scripts for the both of them...Whichever one I decided to do would be my first script (of many) ever. Don't know which to choose...

SPACETRAVEL from ☉ Since: Oct, 2010
#185: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:51:28 PM

Oh, my reading circle has always been very small. Guess it was just a glaring mistake that time.

whoever wrote this shit needs to step on a rake in a comedic fashion
CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#186: Apr 8th 2011 at 2:56:00 PM

So um...I have these two...ideas, you could say. I think it would be interesting to make scripts for the both of them...Whichever one I decided to do would be my first script (of many) ever. Don't know which to choose...

So... what are they, anyways?

Be back around ten, I'm going to see a high school play.

"Jack, you have debauched my sloth."
Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
Hurr
#187: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:26:28 PM

One is a comedy tentatively called Charisma. It's about an infamous group of teens, each one from a different school in the same district who are known as the most charismatic, charming, funny, popular kids in their respective schools. They each have their own unique talents and quirks. The main character is invited to go through certain tests to join, but over the course of the movie he falls in love with the group's only female member. That same female member is "dating" the leader of the group, who is a huge asshole. That's the gist of the basic plot. I want to develop all the members of the group as much as I can (in a movie script anyway)

The other one is about three teens who, after feeling betrayed by life and fate for their own reasons, become anarchists and try to destroy New York City. This one is an action with some comedic elements.

Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#188: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:33:23 PM

Why would an asshole be in a club for the funnest people in the school?

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#189: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:41:10 PM

Because assholes can be really funny as well?

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Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#192: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:48:09 PM

S'all good. Anyway Saturn, that is a really cliche plotline which doesn't even make sense, as people are popular for a reason and being an asshole is generally not one of them. Take Jerkass out of the club, or otherwise justify his acerbic attitude (i.e. he doesn't normally act that way but his mom is dying and he is under a lot of stress).

edited 8th Apr '11 3:48:47 PM by Leradny

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#193: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:48:12 PM

I just typed the following background information for my Steampunk RP, which is going to be a sequel for the RP in my signature, Reunions Dark Summer. I am planning to create an events tree that players can use to decide the direction of the story. Sorry for any grammar errors:

In an alternate world, it is January, 1935. In this world, London City, Paris, and Berlin had been rebuild since the Great Airship War, a corporate coal rush is in progress in Africa, the Nazi Party is feuding with the Communist Party, The Soviet Union is bumping shoulders with the American Republic, and the Empire of the Rising Sun is the third most powerful nation in the world. There is a three-way power struggle between the Five Powers (American Republic, Soviet Union, Empire of the Rising Sun, Great Britain, and Great Germany) that might trigger the Second Great War.

This is just one paragraph. What do you think? Too cliche?

edited 8th Apr '11 3:49:46 PM by chihuahua0

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#194: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:49:50 PM

A coal rush? In 1935 even? Apart from that little niggling thing it's not too cliche.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#195: Apr 8th 2011 at 3:54:36 PM

[up] Well, it is Steampunk, so coal might be running a little low. Maybe it's a huge area full of nothing but coal and dirt...or I can just think of another substance that might be used for their Steampunk need.

I will also be adding elements of Sherlock Holmes Mystery,Film Noir, Agatha Christie Mystery, Spy Fiction, and maybe a secret speclative fiction genre or two.

Naturally, there will be a lot of playing around with tropes, playing them straight, lampshading them, deconstructing them, reconstructing them, etc.

Meanwhile, I am slowely writing another steampunk story, and working on a steampunk-style board game for a class.

Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
Hurr
#196: Apr 8th 2011 at 4:04:49 PM

I guess you're right, Leradny. I'll just scrap both the ideas and come up with another...

Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#197: Apr 8th 2011 at 5:17:19 PM

But I just gave you two possible ways to improve the first one, and the second was covered by others.

edited 8th Apr '11 5:18:18 PM by Leradny

Saturn Hurr from On The Rings Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
Leradny Since: Jan, 2001
#199: Apr 8th 2011 at 6:36:16 PM

A little confidence in yourself works wonders.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#200: Apr 8th 2011 at 6:45:18 PM

Today I wrote like 1300 words pertaining to my newest chapter continuing from where I left off.

Presently our heroes have fought off being horrendously outnumbered and outgunned and are now striking back with a tank.


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