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montmorencey So...yeah. from the quaint town of Grimm, Bismarck and Gauss Since: Aug, 2011
So...yeah.
#18976: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:15:15 PM

[lol] Where did you find that name?

Names in my story are...Yeshovah, Yessamine, Pieter, Duniya, Darien, Iria, Tanisha, Surkha, Allessan, Stanivan, Tohmir, Mekish, Rillka and some more. Some of them belong to the same people.

Complicated - because simple is simply too simple.
Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from Hell-o, Island (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#18977: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:19:50 PM

Hmm. Character names, huh?

In Of Blades, the main characters are Kristina Kazue Hisui Rainer, Takaki Yukiko (who is a guy, despite the name), Piter (just Piter) and Amanda "Mandy" Anders.

In Five Lessons, the main characters are Steele (no given name decided on yet, though I'm tending towards Daniel), Naomi, Gabriel, Janet and Turtle and Firefly, who don't yet have legal names, but I should probably decide on them soon.

Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
#18978: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:19:58 PM

I was trying to find a name with a particular meaning to it and a friend suggested it. It's not exactly the meaning, but it's close enough. This was back before I found behindthenames. Not that that would help, it's not actually on there?

But yeah I've found that there's actually two different meanings for it, but no pronunciation guide yet. And yes, there's an in story explanation for the parents giving her such an obscure name.

Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#18979: Mar 28th 2013 at 6:34:46 PM

I hate having writer's block.

Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#18980: Mar 28th 2013 at 6:38:45 PM

Well we hate you too! tongue

Nous restons ici.
JHM Apparition in the Woods from Niemandswasser Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Apparition in the Woods
#18981: Mar 28th 2013 at 9:53:29 PM

I end up with a lot of female names ending in "-ine." Caroline, Nadine, Ondine, Jacqueline... there are probably others. Not sure why.

edited 28th Mar '13 9:54:41 PM by JHM

I'll hide your name inside a word and paint your eyes with false perception.
BrotherMycroft Dapper Gentleman Since: Jul, 2012
Dapper Gentleman
#18982: Mar 29th 2013 at 5:45:48 PM

As my story takes place in a future world and puts emphasis on culture being quite different from turn-of-the-milennium America, I've been at some pains to come up with names that sound just a slight bit alien. My protagonist, who's a Fish out of Temporal Water of sorts, is named Nicole Andrews (it's a Meaningful Name that means, roughly, "victory of the people through humanity"), but as for the rest...there's Maria, Lana, Julian, Alexander, Akio, and someone I'm still trying to come up with a good name for.

That said, some of the most fun I've ever had as an author is the time I wrote a short story and decided to just go nuts with character naming. The setting was deliberately ambiguous, so I ransacked all sorts of naming websites for names with all kinds of different origins, the more outlandish, the better.

Thus it was that I ended up with Mayor Papageorgiou and his valet, Damirchizadeh. They were the rulers of a Thirty Xanatos Pileup, and it was good.

"And every life is a special story of its own." —The Stargazer, Mass Effect 3
ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#18983: Mar 29th 2013 at 5:46:45 PM

I'm at about 38k right now.

This is so hard.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#18984: Mar 29th 2013 at 7:43:21 PM

There were three different Alexanders in my seventh-grade algebra class. "A slight bit alien" is not the phrasing I'd use.

Also, good heavens do I omniloathe the Mary Sue culture.

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#18985: Mar 29th 2013 at 7:46:33 PM

Also, good heavens do I omniloathe the Mary Sue culture.

That's some ambiguous phrasing. Could refer to either "the culture of people who go about labeling characters 'Mary Sues' without constructive intent" or "obnoxiously perfect fictional cultures". Although I agree either way, clarification seems advisable.

edited 29th Mar '13 7:47:00 PM by KillerClowns

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#18986: Mar 29th 2013 at 7:51:10 PM

Publishing industry news: Amazon has bought Goodreads.

This article is just one viewpoint, but there's plenty of opinions on the matter.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#18987: Mar 29th 2013 at 9:01:11 PM

the culture of people who go about labeling characters 'Mary Sues' without constructive intent

This one, although it goes further what you describe.

greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#18988: Mar 30th 2013 at 1:00:03 AM

[up]x10 Michmethah

You will not go to space today.
Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#18990: Mar 30th 2013 at 8:11:09 AM

That's some ambiguous phrasing. Could refer to

Or even the culture that causes people to write Sues.

edited 30th Mar '13 8:13:39 AM by Night

Nous restons ici.
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#18991: Mar 30th 2013 at 8:12:47 AM

Whee, accidental double post due to edit attempt, IGNORE ME

edited 30th Mar '13 8:13:13 AM by Night

Nous restons ici.
ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#18992: Mar 30th 2013 at 5:13:49 PM

How important is it to mention a character's race in a novel? :/

greedling Since: Feb, 2010
#18993: Mar 30th 2013 at 5:37:27 PM

Depends on how important it is to you that a large portion of the audience doesn't default to white (or reading it as another race I guess, but those are usually individualised rather than a cultural trend). If representation and the like are important to you, probably better to make it explicit.

You will not go to space today.
Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
#18994: Mar 30th 2013 at 6:20:14 PM

One thing I've seen is that if you mention the race of one character, you should mention the race of the other characters. Because if you mention, for example, that a character is African American but don't for anyone else, it comes off as assuming everyone is white unless otherwise mentioned.

Khantalas E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered from Hell-o, Island (Primordial Chaos) Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
E-Who-Must-Not-Be-Gendered
#18995: Mar 30th 2013 at 6:53:12 PM

It also depends on the the setting of the story. In a story taking place in, say, the United States, mentioning it becomes important. If it takes place in an ethnically far more homogenous place, such as modern day Japan, you really only need to mention people who are not the overwhelmingly dominant ethnicity in the region.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#18996: Mar 31st 2013 at 3:33:17 AM

I don't know. I guess it was kind of surprising in my drawings when Dawn was black, but I mean. She lives on a moonbase that controls a deathlaser and was essentially assembled by her father out of a box of genetic scraps. She's not genetically related to anyone we know — as far as we know, the only thing this means is that there were probably black people on the moon at some point of time.

So I mean it's like she's black but she's so isolated that it doesn't matter?

MorwenEdhelwen Aussie Tolkien freak from Sydney, Australia Since: Jul, 2012
Aussie Tolkien freak
#18997: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:21:39 AM

What does "heavily inspired" actually mean? What's the line between "heavily inspired" and "rip-off?"

edited 31st Mar '13 5:40:02 AM by MorwenEdhelwen

The road goes ever on. -Tolkien
ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#18998: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:27:53 AM

The difference between "heavily inspired" and "rip-off" is how well written the piece is tongue

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#18999: Mar 31st 2013 at 6:37:58 AM

^ And here I thought "heavily inspired" meant so similar to another work but doesn't actually mention or name anything after the other. "Rip off" is so similar that it outright names or hints that the names of things are the same to the other work.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19000: Mar 31st 2013 at 7:01:55 AM

Well, no. I mean the thing is that ideas are cheap, so using someone else's ideas is not really that big a deal. It depends on the writing. If the writing is good enough that the work is good on its own, then it's "heavily inspired." If the writer just seems to be using things from someone else because they like them, or the ideas were popular at the time, and there's none of that je ne sais quoi to it that makes it good, then it's a "rip off".


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