Both of them should be in their respective namespaces, with the main a disambiguation page. That's the standard we're trying to work toward with name collisions.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.The difference being that the I, Robot movie is an adaptation (loose as it is) of the story, which means the story should be the main page and the movie should be in the Film subpage. It's not two unconnected works that happen to have the same name.
"Thorough preparation must lead to success. Neglect nothing."^^ Didn't know that rule had officially changed.
We are trying to reach that as a standard. Making new pages that don't follow it just makes the problems worse.
MC: Neither one of them is a trope, though. The namespaces are the place for works— that's why we have namespaces.
edited 20th Mar '11 6:56:02 PM by Madrugada
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Stick the I Robot literature page on Literature.I Robot and make the main a disambiguation. Standard stuff. "This work is better, so it should get the main Namespace" is an idea I'd like to see murdered.
Fight smart, not fair.I tried to avoid saying "better", really. But the rule used to be "either the original or the better known gets Main."
How are sub-pages handled in such a situation? Will the short story collection and movie have to share their Moment Of Awesome page and so on?
Fzzr Miller because underscores are brokenYeah...we don't really have an answer for that. Soft-split is the obvious stopgap solution.
You can softsplit or turn the subpages into disambiguation pages to things like Awesome.I Robot Film.
Fight smart, not fair.^This. Yes, it's a stopgap, as well.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.Although, if you're moving them anyway, you might as well put it on IRobot and submit a title change dealie.
Fight smart, not fair.Something of a necro here, but I have a question. I just got a copy of and read Harlan Ellison's proposed screenplay for an I Robot film. It never got made, but he got the thing published in Asimov's Science Fiction and then later as a book (this is what I have). It's an adaptation of the short story collection, but while I haven't read that in years I think that it's distinct from it - plenty of elements not in the original, like, say, Zero-G Spot and Lost World. Would it be permissible to make a page for it, and if so, where would it go?
Also, can I go ahead and change the Main/ page to a disambiguation?
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.And what about the video game?
The videogame would clearly go in Game.I Robot. Harlan Ellison's script... that's a tough one. We can't stick it in Unpublished Works, because it was published. Maybe Literature.I Robot Unused Script or something along those lines?
EDIT: Oh booger, turns out there's already a Game.I Robot. To disambiguate between I, Robot videogames, the easiest solution would be to stick the year at the end of the title. So the current page would be moved to Game.I Robot 1983.
edited 16th Apr '11 2:41:42 PM by MetaFour
It's subtitled «The Illustrated Screenplay», if that helps.
[1] This facsimile operated in part by synAC.Literature.I Robot The Illustrated Screenplay sounds pretty good, I guess.
I just went ahead and split off the movie in the film namespace. I'll see what I can do about the game.
Games should actually be in Video Game.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'll just move that, then.
And done. No discussion or anything to move.
Also fixed Film.I Robot redirecting to the disambiguation page.
edited 25th May '11 1:15:46 PM by Balmung
There's some precedent for using the Script/ namespace for things like the Ellison screenplay.
(Not, you know, a lot, but it's also not a situation that comes up very often.)
132 is the rudest number.
At least I think it's what this garbled post was trying to say.
The book came first and is a Sci-Fi classic while the movie is an adaptation In Name Only, so the book really ought to have front page billing, and/or the page be a disambiguation. But preferably the first option.
edited 20th Mar '11 3:26:36 PM by Elle