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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Mar 20th 2011 at 3:25:54 PM

At least I think it's what this garbled post was trying to say.

The book came first and is a Sci-Fi classic while the movie is an adaptation In Name Only, so the book really ought to have front page billing, and/or the page be a disambiguation. But preferably the first option.

edited 20th Mar '11 3:26:36 PM by Elle

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#2: Mar 20th 2011 at 4:34:56 PM

Both of them should be in their respective namespaces, with the main a disambiguation page. That's the standard we're trying to work toward with name collisions.

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#3: Mar 20th 2011 at 4:41:04 PM

The difference being that the I, Robot movie is an adaptation (loose as it is) of the story, which means the story should be the main page and the movie should be in the Film subpage. It's not two unconnected works that happen to have the same name.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Mar 20th 2011 at 5:14:08 PM

^^ Didn't know that rule had officially changed.

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#5: Mar 20th 2011 at 6:55:00 PM

We are trying to reach that as a standard. Making new pages that don't follow it just makes the problems worse.

MC: Neither one of them is a trope, though. The namespaces are the place for works— that's why we have namespaces.

edited 20th Mar '11 6:56:02 PM by Madrugada

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#6: Mar 21st 2011 at 1:50:26 AM

Stick the I Robot literature page on Literature.I Robot and make the main a disambiguation. Standard stuff. "This work is better, so it should get the main Namespace" is an idea I'd like to see murdered.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Mar 21st 2011 at 1:53:27 AM

I tried to avoid saying "better", really. But the rule used to be "either the original or the better known gets Main."

fzzr_miller from California Since: Sep, 2009
#8: Mar 21st 2011 at 2:13:46 AM

How are sub-pages handled in such a situation? Will the short story collection and movie have to share their Moment Of Awesome page and so on?

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Mar 21st 2011 at 2:39:08 AM

Yeah...we don't really have an answer for that. Soft-split is the obvious stopgap solution.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#10: Mar 21st 2011 at 2:48:39 AM

You can softsplit or turn the subpages into disambiguation pages to things like Awesome.I Robot Film.

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#11: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:27:11 AM

^This. Yes, it's a stopgap, as well.

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#12: Mar 21st 2011 at 7:35:36 AM

Although, if you're moving them anyway, you might as well put it on IRobot and submit a title change dealie.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Apr 16th 2011 at 11:53:25 AM

Something of a necro here, but I have a question. I just got a copy of and read Harlan Ellison's proposed screenplay for an I Robot film. It never got made, but he got the thing published in Asimov's Science Fiction and then later as a book (this is what I have). It's an adaptation of the short story collection, but while I haven't read that in years I think that it's distinct from it - plenty of elements not in the original, like, say, Zero-G Spot and Lost World. Would it be permissible to make a page for it, and if so, where would it go?

Also, can I go ahead and change the Main/ page to a disambiguation?

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artman40 Since: Jan, 2001
#14: Apr 16th 2011 at 11:56:18 AM

And what about the video game?

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#15: Apr 16th 2011 at 2:38:35 PM

The videogame would clearly go in Game.I Robot. Harlan Ellison's script... that's a tough one. We can't stick it in Unpublished Works, because it was published. Maybe Literature.I Robot Unused Script or something along those lines?

EDIT: Oh booger, turns out there's already a Game.I Robot. To disambiguate between I, Robot videogames, the easiest solution would be to stick the year at the end of the title. So the current page would be moved to Game.I Robot 1983.

edited 16th Apr '11 2:41:42 PM by MetaFour

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Apr 16th 2011 at 2:40:04 PM

It's subtitled «The Illustrated Screenplay», if that helps.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#18: May 25th 2011 at 11:23:27 AM

I just went ahead and split off the movie in the film namespace. I'll see what I can do about the game.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#20: May 25th 2011 at 1:08:19 PM

I'll just move that, then.

And done. No discussion or anything to move.

Also fixed Film.I Robot redirecting to the disambiguation page.

edited 25th May '11 1:15:46 PM by Balmung

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#21: May 25th 2011 at 1:11:08 PM

There's some precedent for using the Script/ namespace for things like the Ellison screenplay.

(Not, you know, a lot, but it's also not a situation that comes up very often.)

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