Make in universe only: Mondegreen

Currently the page is a mess of every possible way that you could mishear a song lyric. As there are large numbers of in universe examples on work pages and scattered in the examples, I propose we turn the page into an in universe page rather than just accumulating random song lyrics that some troper misheard.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Part of the problem may be that there is no real criteria given to define "famous" Mondegreens, as personal mondegreens are already supposed to be put on the Troper Tales page.

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Hmm, give it a Real Life Example Sectionectomy... good idea, really.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

Let's definitely restrict it to In-Universe only. If people want to hear about every potential Mondegreen in existence, there's already links on the page to other resources.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

It would also turn it into an objective trope for added bonus points.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

I was going to say, this is a page ripe for a fun Troper Tales...but we have one already. I'm in favor.

I have no problem with leaving the Real Life examples to Troper Tales. Who wants to volunteer for the cleanup task?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

What about mondegreens that don't appear in works, but are widespread enough that the original singer is aware of them and references them (e.g. "kiss this guy")? Do those stay?

No, because there is no way that we can judge those. There is no standard where we can say this is well known enough. That's why the page has decayed so far. Unless you can find a work that uses the specific Mondegreen, it doesn't belong on the page.

edited 16th Feb '11 8:10:44 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Well, if it's referenced in other media—for example, if a documentary about Jimi Hendrix talks about the "kiss this guy" thing—it could be a Discussed or Conversed example listed under the title of the work making the reference.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

We need to finish sorting this. How much do I have permission to chainsaw?

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

While we're on the topic, there's also a thread for the Troper Tales page. [1] Yes, there is definitely a fun Troper Tales page for this.

I would say famous examples would be limited to those mentioned by the media and/or those that have been referenced by the artists themselves (e.g.: "Kiss this guy" and "There's a bathroom on the right").

edited 1st Mar '11 6:29:39 PM by 0dd1

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So basically, if it's not cited with a media that pointed it out, I can cut it?

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

Sounds good.

Rhymes with "Protracted."

The page is going to get a lot shorter.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

This trope will be reworked to work on in-universe only examples, correct?

Then I have a problem I'd like to ask your opinion about: in the Mitsumete Knight character sheet, I long ago added a Mondegreen example in Wolfgario the Ravager's entry, and it's not an in-universe one.

I'm really stuck because of this single entry: I'd like to move all YMMV tropes in the page to the YMMV tab, but am not sure if I have to move this Mondegreen entry along with the other YMMV items, or simply eliminate it. What should I do?

edited 17th Mar '11 6:04:17 AM by AceNoctali

"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori Yae

Yep, in universe only. If it's not in universe, then it should be removed as a bad example same as any other bad example. The wiks are going to take a bit of clean up.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

As much permission as you want. Personal examples go in Troper Tales. I know There Is No Such Thing As Notability and all that but if it's not referenced in popular media, then it's not a well-known enough example to be on the main page. That's the only way to make it objective without cutting Real Life examples entirely.

"Thorough preparation must lead to success. Neglect nothing."

Ok, so eliminating the example it is. Thanks for the answer, Shima.

"Your kindness gives me the presentiment I can be reborn. Now, I want to believe at least in you." - Kaori Yae

That sounds like a clear cut answer thank you. If it's listed as having been referenced in media it can stay. Otherwise it's going.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

To be honest, while I'm fine with the example list being IU only, we should still allow OOU examples on the YMMW tabs of pages, they aren't hurting anyone there.

What about Mondegreens That have become Memetic Mutation? For example the Pokemon example of DENNIS!

edited 21st Jun '11 10:09:27 AM by pokedude10

Those should be chainsawed with a passion because meme's are never as wide spread as the person spreading them thinks they are.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick

[quoteblock]Those should be chainsawed with a passion because meme's are never as wide spread as the person spreading them thinks they are.[/quoteblock] That I don't agree with, we examples on meme pages for a reason, after all.

Memetic Mondegreen would probably stay on the Meme pages IMO.

Maybe a new subtrope for that (Example: Dissidia Final Fantasy's Exdeath has "Get the fruit!" when he actually says "Death approaches!" with sound effects of the spell at the same time or "Naive Weekly!" ("Naive weakling!") ect.... the guy has a lot of them and it comes up in the forum thread a lot.

edited 23rd Jun '11 2:58:41 AM by Raso

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