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Deadlock Clock: Oct 27th 2011 at 11:59:00 PM
artman40 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Feb 14th 2011 at 3:52:07 AM

Due to Bonnie And Clyde being renamed after work, many links which should be directed to the film, Pot Hole to this trope instead. Should the trope be renamed, repaired or something else?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Feb 14th 2011 at 4:54:53 AM

I'm inclined to declare them Public Domain Character (or whatever the hell that page is) or something.

edited 14th Feb '11 4:55:12 AM by Deboss

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Feb 14th 2011 at 10:58:38 AM

^Especially when the real Bonnie And Clyde predate the movie. We should just be concerned about fixing potholes that are only about the movie.

edited 14th Feb '11 10:59:19 AM by SeanMurrayI

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#4: Feb 14th 2011 at 11:08:11 AM

Since it's a character type, adding a "The" in front of the trope name would be a good way to distinguish between the movie and the character type. It's also a standard naming convention here.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#5: Feb 14th 2011 at 11:40:43 AM

^Although I'm not sure how standard it is here to place the word "The" before a two-named duo; it usually only comes before the name or title for single person or item (The Hero, The Scrappy, The Leisure Suit Larry, etc.). "The Bonnie And Clyde" just doesn't sound right (and "The Bonnie and The Clyde" just sounds too stupid for words).

At least, Like Bonnie And Clyde sounds like something a person would actually say about a male-female criminal duo. However, I'm more inclined to stick with Bonnie And Clyde and argue its use as a pre-existing term.

edited 14th Feb '11 1:15:50 PM by SeanMurrayI

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#6: Feb 14th 2011 at 11:44:42 AM

It really has been used as a term for this sort of duo since the originals. The film came much later.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#7: Feb 14th 2011 at 12:29:03 PM

I think renaming to The Bonnie And Clyde is enough to clear up any confusion.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Feb 14th 2011 at 12:55:05 PM

I'm satisfied with switching to The Bonnie And Clyde or Like Bonnie And Clyde for the character types. So, does what do we do with the main?

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artman40 Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Feb 14th 2011 at 8:58:07 PM

Second one sounds good enough although Partners In Crime Couple may sound more practical.

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#12: Mar 1st 2011 at 4:08:21 PM

If we rename this trope (which I think we should), we could just add the main page to the Ambiguity Index, a page that I'm really glad exists.

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DesertDragon from dreams from Pittsburgh, PA Since: Jan, 2001
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#13: Mar 22nd 2011 at 12:49:11 AM

In all honesty, the real life couple are more well-known than the film based on them; the trope is fine as is.

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#14: Mar 22nd 2011 at 6:21:20 AM

The name Bonnie And Clyde should probably be reserved for a useful notes page that describes the historical individuals and how they are used as characters in fiction.

Bonnie And Clyde Couple would be a great name for this trope. It doesn't lose any of the useful information the current title gives, and further identifies that it's about similar characters as opposed to the duo themselves.

Regardless of what happens, though, the Film should stay in the film namespace.

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#15: Mar 22nd 2011 at 7:08:43 AM

If it has to be renamed, I vote for Like Bonnie And Clyde. That's how I usually hear it used conversationally.

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#16: Mar 22nd 2011 at 8:24:36 AM

"Like Bonnie And Clyde" gets my vote if we have to move it.

edited 22nd Mar '11 8:24:50 AM by deuxhero

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#17: Apr 11th 2011 at 2:38:32 PM

Someone suggested the name Outlaw Couple. As a member of SPOON, I support this name because it's simple and conveys the essence of the trope.

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#18: Sep 15th 2011 at 2:29:35 PM

Bump.

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#19: Sep 15th 2011 at 8:06:08 PM

Rename the trope. Lets have a crowner

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#20: Sep 28th 2011 at 12:19:16 PM

There has been a call to lock this thread because it is going no where, very slowly. I'm putting a clock on it, if the clock expires, off to the morgue as unresolved.

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#22: Sep 28th 2011 at 3:11:35 PM

There seems to be enough support for a rename (and obvious misuse for either the actual couple or the work), so I say we jump straight to an alt names crowner. We've got plenty of decent suggestions.

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AlternativeTitles: BonnieAndClyde
29th Sep '11 6:35:49 AM

Crown Description:

Bonnie And Clyde (the trope) shares a title with the film by the same name and is therefore an invalid trope name. It is also rampantly confused with the actual characters "Bonnie and Clyde". There is widespread agreement that it needs a rename.

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