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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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And his girlfriend. And his friend Gwen.
And don't forget he thinks Peter would've been a better son.
edited 18th Apr '14 5:30:05 PM by Lionheart0
Norman is not father of the year, in other words...
But Liz says she's trying to help her son, right? Her son is Norman's grandson, which could be a non-sex-related reason for helping him.
Yeah, I don't think the two are boinking. If I had to suffice a guess, Normie is probably having some sort of Goblin Genetic Breakdown, and Norman is dangling the cure in front of Liz.
That makes a lot of sense. It seems to be something that would make Liz desperate enough to work with her father in law, who attacked her and kidnapped her son to experiment on him in the first place.
Yeah, I could buy that. She tells her son "she's doing it all for him," and now that we know Gobby isn't a time-displaced Normie, it explains why Liz Allen, of all people, would suddenly start working for Norman Sr. Man, Norman Osborn is such a douche. It wouldn't even surprise me if he was playing with his grandson's life like that. Gotta love Gobby, he's like Luthor had a baby with the Joker.
I know I'm going to regret this later, but what is the consensus here on Wolverine vs. Spider-Man?
Depends on the situation/location. Either Spidey manages to immobilize Wolverine in such a way he can't use his claws, or Wolverine runs Spidey through after exhausting Spidey (because even though he could track Spider-Man down with his nose, surprise attack is impossible, and Wolverine could outlast due to his healing ability).
Personally I'd go with Peter, since a fight with Spider-Man is most likely to take place in NYC, which is great for the webslinger since Spidey could just web Wolverine up, or lead him to some quick dry cement, and Spidey has tons of experience fighting people with unlimited endurance or those who just need to be immobilized.
I wouldn't be surprised if Norman is playing crazy mind games with her, dosing her or Normie with something, or otherwise doing mental torture. (And it really makes me want to see Harry back in the game)
Can Wolverine be knocked out? Otherwise I'm not sure how he can lose. If so, Spidey lolstomps. Actually, his webbing should be enough for him to just immobilize Wolverine effortlessly if he can be knocked out or not.
Not to go all Batman, but are we talking Prep time?
In a straight up, no holds barred fight to the death, Wolverine. Logan is a superior fighter and has the healing factor.
Now, if this is your typical Let's You and Him Fight, then Spider-Man.
Wolverine can be knocked unconscious. His healing favorite just makes it really really hard for him to actually die.
edited 19th Apr '14 5:07:34 PM by Lionheart0
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Spidey webs Wolverine up long enough to use his head for a speedbag and knock him out. Which, given Spidey's speed and strength, shouldn't take too long.
My various fanfics.
And does Wolverine have super strength/durability? If not, Spidey can knock him out in one punch, I remember him fighting some big guy who had his ability to sense pain turned off, but otherwise had no super powers, and Spidey just held back a little less and knocked him out instantly.
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This is the same Spider-Man that once chucked Wolverine out of a skyscraper through a bulletproof window, right?
Wolverine is one of the most durable character in Universe and one of the best hand to hand combatants. That he has those adamantium skeleton and claws.
What was funny about that is it was treated as an Unusually Uninteresting Sight.
edited 19th Apr '14 5:30:40 PM by Lionheart0
No prep time, historically that leads to all kinds of scenario that I rather not get into.
edited 19th Apr '14 5:34:16 PM by Cross
Eh, screw how good he is at hand to hand. Super strength, speed, reflexes are vastly better than human skill. Plus Spidey Sense should make that moot if it's actually working how it's said to for this fight.
Plus webs. Wolverine has no counter to being webbed to the ground.
edited 19th Apr '14 5:37:11 PM by Saiga
Funny but not helpful
The Hulk beat Wolverine once just by punching him in the head repeatedly to give him all the concussions.
Squishy brain rattling around an adamantium skull.
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Is the crazy Osborn hair dead? Has yet to read the last issue of Superior, but from my understanding Norman had plastic surgery and no longer has the wacky hair style, Harry has gone bald, and Normie has a normal hair style.
If so, R.I.P. Osborn hair. I'll miss you.
edited 19th Apr '14 7:56:30 PM by sparkykandy
NOOOOO! The Osborn hair has left us! By the way, what happened to Harry after American Son?
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Doesn't Sandman still have the Crazy Osborn Hair?
Sandman is Norman Osborn's illegitimate child.
He does, forgot about him at first. Not sure he counts though. :/
Edit: Red M: As far I know, Harry's hiding out somewhere. He shaved his head and grew a beard.
edited 19th Apr '14 6:39:54 PM by sparkykandy
IIRC, didn't John Byrne's reboot state Flint was an illegitimate cousin of Norman or something like that?
He ended up facing down Gabriel Stacy after the latter took the American Son armor for himself. Lily then showed up again later and ended up finally giving birth to their son, who was kidnapped in an attempt by Doctor Octopus to unlock the secrets of a new species due to the supposed combined Goblin Formulas inside of that child. Once Spider-Man saved his son, Harry decided to move to Seattle with it while Lily ran off.
Harry was last seen cameo'ing in Amazing Spider-Man 696 or 697.
edited 19th Apr '14 6:36:38 PM by TheMageofFire
Oh, I remember that issue with the baby being kidnapped and Spidey going apeshit.
