When your country is utterly irrelevant. There's no narrative needed. It's just cold and boring.
edited 9th Oct '15 3:01:26 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleIt won't add much to the debate, but this week Martin Weill, who is a reporter for Le Petit Journal (a French semi-satirical news show heavily inspired by Jon Stewart) is in Syria, among the rebels that are both fighting Al-Assad and ISIS. Of course he is not here to give us a proper analysis of the conflict (since he gets 5 minutes everyday), but watching him interview two girls that aren't even 20 or three French guys that have no link whatsoever with Syria but decided to come fighting because that was "the right thing to do" - one was an architect, one was a waiter, neither were in the military ever before - helps...I don't know, "humanizing" the conflict.
From France the most we hear about it is Al-Assad vs. ISIS, so Evil vs Evil, and when we hear or French fighters here they joined ISIS.
Plus, Weill is barely older than I am, and he is travelling in war zones to conduct interviews, explaining how they will have trouble getting away because Turkey closed its border. I kinda feel like I'm doing nothing with my life after watching him.
The way completely unrelated people identify with foreign conflicts and causes, is fascinating to say the least. Can't say I wouldn't do the same in some cases.
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleUmm... whoops?
What's precedent ever done for us?Russia claims their missiles didn't malfunction.
Inter arma enim silent leges
Fairly certain the SAA and Russia knew that would happen. It would be incredibly blind for them to not realise it.
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleSure? Predicting the military effects of an action in the fog of war is hardly an exact science.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanNo, but Daesh is consistant in its actions. Still, it's going to hurt them in the end. Either they spread themselves too thin and can't hold Raqqa from the imminent campaign from the Kurds, or, not wanting that to happen, they only take limited advantage of the vacuum.
Also, if its on the rebel-Daesh front near Aleppo, those gains are gonna be limited by virtue of Assad to the south and the Canton of Afrin further west. In essence, all that does is negate the plan for a northern safe zone, which Obama never fully embraced anyway.
edited 9th Oct '15 8:24:42 AM by FFShinra
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...Nobel Peace Prize for Tunisian National Dialogue Quartet A deserving recognition of the Arab Spring's only success. I suspect when historians look back on the Spring they will view it as a failure and proof that the Arabs cannot handle democracy. Already I'm hearing people say that Putin's right,that the Arab's aren't "ready for democracy."
edited 9th Oct '15 12:49:01 PM by JackOLantern1337
I Bring Doom,and a bit of gloom, but mostly gloom.Bloody well deserved.
"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ CyranThe collective Hope Spot of the Arab Spring.
...Perhaps that should be added to the trope list. :P
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...Not until it fails, I think.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynmanwhat's the trope if it doesn't fail?
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...That was actually the same I had in mind and considered posting.
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.Adding it to the page.
<grumbles that anyone is welcome to contribute>
EDIT- Tunisia now has exactly two tropes associated with it.
edited 9th Oct '15 6:18:47 PM by FFShinra
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...Libya's governments could be holding unity votes soon, so there's that.
Don't get too hopeful about that. As soon as the UN announced it, most M Ps (on both sides) said it was premature. It was ironically a sentiment that strongly unified them if I recall the article correctly.
Which strangely leaves hope that there will eventually be a deal, just not this one.
edited 9th Oct '15 7:51:38 PM by FFShinra
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...Yeah, you'd think if they had no intention of negotiating they would treat the possibility of reconciliation with more derision.
And here I thought that all actual Nobel Peace Prizes were grievous insults to the idea.
Peace is relative.
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleTerminus Est: I can relate. My ex-stepfather tried to run away to join Fidel Castro's rebellion when he was a teenager.
A lot of people see a romantic-looking cause and think "that's where I belong," especially if they feel marginalized and unappreciated at home.
edited 10th Oct '15 5:33:50 AM by Ramidel
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
When did the media ever not love narratives more than reality?
edited 9th Oct '15 3:00:21 AM by KnitTie