Attention Duelists! This is the Yu-Gi-Oh TCG/OCG Thread!

Because... I am many things, Irene, but here, I am GOD Lord British Role Model All-Pope Leo I, HNIC.

You don't look like a Lord to me, just a guy in a shirt.

Anyway, the last WCQ stop at July 4th, so we might have our list ready to be started at July 14th again.

That said, I just hope it's a halfway fun list. Like the previous list was(this list's pretty much only good points were limiting Skill Drain and Vanity's. Rest was pretty boring overall, and just moving up a few cards that should've been unlimited for ages, being Bestiari and Fire Fist stuff, as well as Gorz. Was honestly not impressive at all to me. I hate the idea of having a spam monster in Lonefire above 2, let alone above 1, when Symbol of Heritage was completely fair and required you to already and hopefully fill the graveyard slowly for a weaker variant of Monster Reborn/Premature Burial. Just hit the monsters that had looping capability to 1 or 2(Dewlorean, etc.) and we're good. The fact they didn't unlimit Sacred Sword was beyond ridiculous(really, a semi?) and Ravine should've went to 3. It should've been at 1 when the D-Rulers were at 1 instead of being banned as well. No, I don't agree with any of their bannings(next list, maybe, once Red-Eyes Flare Metal Dragon came out, but even then, that card's ten times more powerful than they ever were, and Dark Matter Dragon was nothing more than a blatant broken otk machine. I'd rather have those banned first, but none the less, that's not what happened).

To be specific, the key changes I would've done is not touch the Lonefire/Symbols from where they were, and move Ravine and Dark Strike Fighter immediately to 3, same with Glow-Up Bulb. Rest I was okay with.(well, I enjoyed Snatch Steal, but I am not against the re-ban anyway at all)

edited 24th Jun '15 8:38:42 PM by Irene

This deck still needs work, but there's something satisfying about beating the God Cards.◊ Also, Black Ptera makes for easy syncing and tribute summoning.

I didn't even get to activate my Royal Decree...◊ Man, Horus is fun. And looks badass. I just need a better name for the deck.

edited 24th Jun '15 9:41:27 PM by wanderlustwarrior

...I forgot that Black Ptera was an infinite fodder card...

Well, at least it doesn't say "Sent to the graveyard" alone. I forgot honestly that it didn't say "due to a card effect". Damn, that's good. Albeit, it's slow without Ultimate Offering. I tried it at one time with that, mostly to have the UO Ptera Cannon Soldier OTK available.

So I've been trying to make a Blue-Eyes Shinning Dragon◊ deck. Anyone have any suggestions for changes I could make to improve on it? It's been awhile since I've played at all and I'm not sure about any of the newer cards that could be useful in it.

Try adding The Melody of the Awakening Dragon to help search for Shining Dragon and a Vanilla Blue-Eyes. You can use White Stone as the discard fodder and thus get two Vanila Blue-Eyes and Shining Dragon.

Dragon's Mirror can let you fuse from grave if necessary and Burial from a Different Dimension can return the three Vanillas to the grave to boost Shining when it's on the field.

Otherwise, wait for whatever new Blue-Eyes support will come out with the new movie in the hopes that it can help.

If Mist Valley Apex Avian activates its effect and targets itself, and then it is flipped face-down from something like Book of Moon, does it still negate? I would think no since it doesn't say "return it" or "return that card", but is there anything official?

I'm having a bit of trouble with my "Jurassi Cage" deck. Nothing major, but it could be better. So the deck centers on using Dinosaurs in combination with Savage Colosseum and Kaiser Colosseum. Also, Metaion the Timelord.

I'm good enough at inflicting battle damage, deflected damage or effect damage. I have a problem dealing with my opponent's spells and traps, though. There aren't really any Dinosaurs that deal with either. Hell, there aren't really many dinosaurs.

Any recommendations besides the Evolczars that I already have in my Extra deck?

Are there any other good Legendary Dragon/Knight deck ideas? I don't really like the Empowered Warrior/Summoner variant that much.

The only other thing I can think of is one that uses Reasoning/Monster Gate to dump the stuff you need to the grave quickly. I threw a deck together to see what would happen, and I guess it's nice when things work out.◊ Have fun with the consistency, though.

Also, Probably should have waited with the Compulse, there.◊

Hell, one thing I've learned is that Book of Moon is awesome almost all the time... unless it's Ritual Beasts who can easily chain to it and summon something else. ._.;

Basically, there's times when massive clearing cards like Mirror Force or Torrential are way more effective against them. I think I might start siding in Mirror Force as anti-meta in a way. Also very helpful against Nekroz, unless they flip Royal Decree, but bar them going first, that shouldn't be too hard to deal with.

Anyway, the ban list at this point, if we do get one during July, probably will come around the 4th, near when the World Championship Qualifiers are over. Of course, there's rumors, but I haven't seen an actual full list yet that could actually be real in some way(the only two fake lists posted had obvious or joke mistakes). I'm hoping it at least shakes up the meta. And hits all the meta decks in some way. Burning Abyss need little. Shaddolls need Construct limited, and they can figure it out from there on what else. Tellarknights, well, Alpha limited and then go from there. Nekroz at least need Djinn banned, and I'd say Unicore to 1. Maybe more than that, but those are good starts at the very least. Qliphorts are back with Lose 1 Turn, so hit that to 1 or Scout to 1, and they'll go back down. Masked Heroes, well, either Dark Law or Mask Change II to 1. Just to hurt the floodgate a little. Rest seem fine or not an issue to me, even the lower meta decks that I can't stand. >_>

Well as for heros, I see Darklaw to 1 and Stratos to 1.

@ Loser: You can't negate Apex Avian that way; Its eff to return to the han is the cost, which means it is already in the hand before you can chain.

Soooooo

What's happening in Duel Terminal? Last I heard was Zefra vs Qliphort and Infernoid.

That's incorrect. There is no cost for Apex Avian's effect, and if its targeted "Mist Valley" monster is not face-up on the field when the effect resolves, it will not negate an effect.

We don't have the full story yet, but from the looks of it the Infernoid boss absorbed the Qliphort boss, which had previously absorbed the Shaddoll boss. Several layers of Eviler than Thou stacked on top of each other.

Huh? I thought the Shaddoll boss (Construct) hijacked the Qliphort boss (Towers) and became Shekinaga, and then the new-and-improved Shaddoll boss hijacked the Infernoid, becoming Anomolilith. Or at least, that's what was implied by both Shekinaga and Anomolilith being (El) Shaddoll monsters, as opposed to being Apoqliphort and Infernoid respectively.

Have any of you guys been Inferno Tempest'd early in the duel, and if so, what was your reaction? Mine was utter shock and disbelief.

I can say never I have.

edited 29th Jun '15 5:09:46 PM by thestonedog78

I was, when I was playing my Trap Monster deck.

My opponent posted "You Have Got to be Kidding Me."

I showed him my deck and his response was, "Mother of fuck."

He admitted defeat after I turned a field of 5 traps into a field of 4 indestructible monsters.

Yes. I was playing Monster Mash at the time.

The Last Warrior REALLY loves being negated during my turn.◊ Using my own chalice on my turn let me fusion summon Absolute Zero and normal summon Maryokutai. I didn't used to think I could get off Maryokutai's effect in any useful way, but here he served the double purpose of negating a Forbidden Chalice targeting Last Warrior and narrowing down my number of monsters, so that if my opponent mounted a defense, Nobleman of Crossout would eat into it strongly.

I think part of why I disliked the Water E-Heroes was because they're admittedly on the more broken end of things. However, I'm finding that even using one of each in this deck (or two Absolute Zero, though only one gets summoned, one Acid and one Vapor), this build is really fun.

Earlier in the duel, my opponent tried really hard to get rid of Last Warrior. Because I wasn't falling for him Forbidden Lancing it while attacking his monster conspicuously in attack position, he tried to get CED from Duality. I saw that coming, and had Royal Decree ready. He tried to negate Royal Decree with Trap Stun, but didn't realize that since it's all the same chain, that also negated his CED.

edited 30th Jun '15 2:16:13 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Black Dragon Archfiend's requirement of a Level 6 Normal Archfiend pisses me off. It really makes Red-Eyes Archfiend of Lightning borderline useless.

I mean, allowing Archfiend of Lightning (and Black Flare, for that matter) to be used as Fusion materials would be beneficial, as it not only avoids needing an otherwise useless Summoned Skull, but also allows BDA to have TWO targets (the Dragon AND the Archfiend) for its burn effect as opposed to just the one immediately after its summon, as well as give a reason to use Archfiend.

All Konami would would have to do is make a new BDA that allows this effect, or leave BDA as is and make a new card (probably Continuous or Field Spell) that can allow the use of Archfiend (and Black Flare) as alternate Fusion materials.

This guy counts as a Normal while on the field or in the Graveyard, y'know.

Not in the deck, though, which is pretty much the one place you'd want it to be Normal.

Eh, seems like a bunch of folks trying to have their cake and eat it. Most people mightbbe averse to the idea of 24/25 burn being set up for free for two turns on what is basically a 32 Armades. Which is summonable for basically free.