Star Trek

VI according to Netflix: "To keep the peace, Kirk must dine with Klingons and drink Romulan ale. The Federation said there'd be days like this."

Unrelated: why are "Statistical Probabilities" (Deep Space Nine episode about Bashir treating Augments with mental illnesses) and "Survival Instinct" (Voyager episode about some ex-Borg trying to break free of a strong sub-collective Seven accidentally bound them in) linked in my mind?

edited 27th Jan '16 6:29:05 PM by TParadox

Characters extra suffering from events beyond their control.

Julian and Seven are both visited by reminders of their past who are suffering more than they did. That's about it, I guess. In Seven's case she's directly responsible, in Julian's he's just the most qualified to help (or the last option left).

I never actually saw Statistical Probabilities before last night, I just read about it, and I don't remember it going so far into the plot about the Jack Pack getting involved in war strategy.

Whoever wrote those Star Trek descriptions is a serious fan and needs a comedy award.

Unfortunately, the individual episode summaries often either only describe the teaser or give away the twist.

Boo, I was hoping that it would be something like

• Naked Now - The crew gets drunk, Androids get laid, and Tractor Beams get changed from suck to blow.'

I haven't seen a campy description for anything but those two movies and Deep Space Nine. I can't see series summaries for TOS, TNG, and Voyager because it's showing me the next episode after the last one I saw, and Enterprise, TAS, and the other movies I can find are pretty straight-laced.

That is an amazing summary though. But The Naked Now is asking for it. When I do Texts From TNG (and I don't anymore because that blog closed down), I don't use The Naked Now, because it's basically Star Trek: TFLN.

edited 28th Jan '16 7:20:58 PM by TParadox

And nevar forget: Season One and parts of Season Two were TNG "Let's try TOS and any wild idea from Gene (and his lawyer)". Hence "Code of Honor" and it's level of suck (the Director has some blame as well, it's an Inception-like rabbit hole of suck).

The script for "Code of Honor" was not half bad. Not utterly brilliant and derivative of "Amok Time," but it would likely have been passable under a better director and without the dark Africa undertones.

Deep Space Nine: Apocalypse Rising trivia:

On a Star Trek newsgroup (uesnet..yes I am old *sigh*), there was talk of the actors in the Klingon makeup. Avery Brooks (or Colm Meaney) was supposed respond in a Bluff the Imposter exchange. So Martok (IC) says "Do you know the way..." and our regular bursts into "Do You Know The Way To San Jose"...in full Klingon makeup and the entire cast starts either corpsing or chiming in! Needless to say the take was ruined....

What I know about that episode is that Colm Meany whined about the Klingon makeup for the whole shoot and they never put him in latex again, while Rene Auberjonois really enjoyed the episode because a forehead, nose, and teeth are much more liberating than his regular melty mask.

Also, Dax was supposed to go on the mission, but Terry Farrell was allergic to the Klingon makeup, so she stayed behind. Presumably, she would have been the one to expose Martok. Instead, Odo is suddenly an expert on Klingon culture.

Actually, it makes sense as Odo is an Odo is an expert in his people and how they would view Kilgons and not well versed in Klingon culture.

edited 31st Jan '16 10:58:21 PM by TairaMai

It always made sense to me that Odo would go on the mission, since it was his accusation that they were going on.

Bryan Fuller will be the showrunner for the 2017 Star Trek series.

At least he's a fan. And the article mentions him loving Roddenberry's optimistic future. I find myself slightly more cautiously enthusiastic about this new series.

I say it's just about perfect, and coming full circle. Ronald Moore said that Bryan Fuller was one of the more gifted writers on Voyager but was degraded by the rest of the writing staff.

Reminded me of this from 2013.

edited 10th Feb '16 8:12:45 AM by LordofLore

I agree that would be awesome.

edited 10th Feb '16 8:25:55 AM by C105

Thirded. Make it so.

The Star Trek novella I'm reading has a look into the 31st century (or a version of it, the time agent from that time has noted that there are things about it that are wrong), and it's kind of what Star Trek should already be.

They're in a busy street in London and they can see more species from across the galaxy than humans, and more hybrids than purebreds. A medical drone considers a baseline human bafflingly quaint. There are Hirogen, Ocampa, Xindi, and Cardassian/Bolians all going about their business. There's a pair of holographic fathers raising a human daughter. Random people turn out to be androids. They don't have surgery anymore, they "transreplicate" you, modifying your transporter pattern according to what your genetic sequence dictates in the areas that need to be fixed.Medical centers are equally well-equipped for biological, mechanical, and holographic services. You can choose to cosmetically augment yourself with transreplication or upload yourself into a holographic conversion.

[1] Tony Todd is on the shortlist for the new series.

Do we know anything else about the new series? Such as whether or not it's going to take place in the original 'Prime' timeline, or in the Reboot timeline instead?

Also, as someone who just started getting into Star Trek a few months ago, I'd like to ask; what's the general concensus on Voyager? It's still a long ways off for me, but I'd like to know what I'm getting into before I get there. The problem though is that everywhere I go, half the reviews think it's a good worthwhile show, while the other half think it's anywhere from mediocre to garbage. I'm interested in hearing what people round these parts think about it. Is it a good show worth checking out, or should I really only dive into it if I'm a completionist?

edited 23rd Feb '16 6:31:29 PM by kkhohoho

We don't know anything about the story yet, no.

The general consensus on Voyager is that it's TNG-lite, and gave up on doing anything with the premise they gave themselves in order to play it overly cautiously, so that ultimately only the more negative aspects stood out.

As TNG gets old, dated, and overly familiar to me, I'm coming back to Voyager as the slightly hipper version of the same kind of thing.

Thanks. Though now I'm wondering about Next Generation, which I'm getting pretty darn close to now. For a while, I heard nothing but good things about it, (after I get past the apparantly sh*t first two seasons anyway,) but then I checked the comments for a review of Voyager, and most of them are saying that NG isn't as great or amazing as most say it is. And seeing you say it's 'old, dated, and overly familar...', well, it all just makes me wonder if NG is really all that better than Voyager.

And while I'm at it, like I said, the first two seasons of NG are supposed to be bad; like REALLY darn bad. Should I just skip them, or are they worth checking out after all, even if it's just to flesh out the setting, develop the characters, set up plot points for future episodes, etc.

edited 23rd Feb '16 7:39:29 PM by kkhohoho