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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4851: Feb 1st 2015 at 12:01:42 AM

I'd a sketch where every transporter accident we've seen happens to one guy (probably Harry Kim) all at once.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4852: Feb 1st 2015 at 12:35:35 AM

Um, let's see... duplicated, duplicated with superego and id separated, regressed to preadolescence, merged with another person, debris embedded in body, swapped with Evil Universe counterpart, lost clothes, time travel (what the hell?), pattern shifted to holodeck and integrated into active program (which somehow deactivates the safeties because of course), turned invisible and intangible, spontaneous generation of a Borg drone, and agonizing death.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4853: Feb 1st 2015 at 12:45:43 AM

And good old fashioned just fading out of existence.

Oh really when?
MisterNoh Troper formerly known as Nohbody from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
Troper formerly known as Nohbody
#4854: Feb 1st 2015 at 9:45:48 AM

Para, you forgot Suspended Animation ("Relics", TNG) as an option.

Primarily so they can store him for later abuse after they get bored of the current round. tongue

edited 1st Feb '15 9:50:58 AM by MisterNoh

river_raven you should have feared me more from Ceti Alpha V Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#4855: Feb 1st 2015 at 9:48:02 AM

[up][up] the lives and deaths of Harry Kim. They should not happen all at once but on the same ship. Like 4 Harry Kims running around with different problems. Including a Terran Empire HK where the terrans won.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4856: Feb 1st 2015 at 8:12:28 PM

I didn't include Relics because I didn't think of it it was intentional, if a total kludge never meant to happen.

Now I'm remembering the end of "Lonely Among Us", where the entity escaped by beaming "energy only", and then Picard slipped back into the computers somehow, and they restored him by reconstituting his pattern and just kind of hoping energy-Picard had wandered into the transporter system when they were ready. Pretty sure energy-Picard died and they made a clone.

edited 1st Feb '15 8:12:48 PM by TParadox

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4857: Feb 1st 2015 at 8:14:25 PM

Isn't everyone dead and just a clone though? Isn't that how the transporter works?

Oh really when?
river_raven you should have feared me more from Ceti Alpha V Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#4858: Feb 1st 2015 at 9:12:14 PM

I thought it moved matter on a subatomic scale using TV magic.

That would be a badass reveal tho. Everybody is just in a room somewhere controlling thier "avatars" across space. And nobody really dies on planet side. The people who beam down are just space-golems. Clones would get messy.

I'll show you lightning!
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4859: Feb 1st 2015 at 9:16:45 PM

Before they nailed down a lot of nitty gritty, the novelist who wrote the print adaptations of TOS episodes asserted the transporter works by convincing all the particles in your body that they're really at the place where you wanted them to be, so they jump there. Which is a lot less horrifying than the "take you apart and put you back together at the other end" explanation.

Tech manuals try to assuage the horror by stating that you're reconstructed perfectly at the other end because the scan is at a quantum level. (Compared to replicators building stuff at the molecular level. Also this is why replicators cannot create life.)

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#4860: Feb 1st 2015 at 11:46:34 PM

The transporters also have the Heisenberg Compensators, an unabashed Hand Wave on the scientifically unfeasible nature of all transporters and teleporters.

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4861: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:58:48 AM

You could have a teleporter that doesn't rely on quantum scanning. It'd just have to rely on space folding or something.

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#4862: Feb 2nd 2015 at 1:22:09 PM

You folks all know that transporters in Star Trek only came about because effects shots for shuttles and the Enterprise itself landing on planets were hella expensive back in the Sixties, right? They were never supposed to make sense and were simply a cop out.

Any explanation the fans come up with is better than Roddenberry himself ran with back in the day.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4863: Feb 2nd 2015 at 3:45:29 PM

Shuttles are unsafe too. They're always exploding and killing Riker's imaginary holodeck wife or Wesley's classmates or crashing on some shitty planet or something.

Oh really when?
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4864: Feb 2nd 2015 at 7:17:29 PM

Yeah, with transporters taking care of routine ship to site transit, shuttles basically became the device to get people in trouble.

There are episodes where Picard takes the Enterprise a few days off course to let senior staff members get places rather than sending them in shuttles. It's ostensibly because the ship is faster than a shuttle, but shuttles get crashed or captured all the time.

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river_raven you should have feared me more from Ceti Alpha V Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#4865: Feb 2nd 2015 at 9:54:31 PM

Or both.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4866: Feb 2nd 2015 at 10:11:38 PM

If I recall correctly, Rasmussen (the time-travelling con man) was written with Robin Williams in mind (another near miss from when they intended the Traveler for him), but Matt Frewer could probably have a successful career as a Jim Carrey impersonator.

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KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#4867: Feb 2nd 2015 at 11:36:04 PM

Yeah, it was something to do with Williams being booked up with Hook. Not that Williams isn't an amazing actor, but he is almost too big of a name to really disappear into a role like that. Especially a role that really banks on the twist of them being a nobody. Whoopi Goldberg wasn't quite as big a name when she took on Guinan, and thus didn't overwhelm the role with star power.

C0mraid from Here and there Since: Aug, 2010
#4868: Feb 3rd 2015 at 6:45:01 AM

[up]I always thought Williams did a good job in that episode of Homicide.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4869: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:17:38 PM

Is it wrong that I would be totally ok with just watching Data and Hutchinson talk for days?

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johnnyfog Actual Wrestling Legend from the Zocalo Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#4870: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:39:17 PM

It bugged me, tbh.

Data can fake a personality based on whoever he wants, eh? Just copy Riker. Cruise-control for life.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#4871: Feb 3rd 2015 at 8:42:47 PM

It was a very broad imitation, but Hutch had a very broad personality.

edited 3rd Feb '15 8:42:54 PM by TParadox

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#4872: Feb 3rd 2015 at 10:11:38 PM

They both just so enthusiastic about meaningless bullshit. It's somehow so interesting to watch.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#4874: Feb 6th 2015 at 1:28:15 AM

Nothing new here. The more I learn about him, the more I get the feeling Roddenberry may have had an interesting vision of a future utopia (of which I happen to be very fond BTW), but at the same time he apparently lacked a lot in any quality needed to actually be part of this utopia.

edited 6th Feb '15 4:52:27 AM by C105

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#4875: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:31:20 AM

That's as old as the Bible. The ones who bring visions of Utopia and lead others there usually don't get in, for one reason or another.


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