Crawl is interesting, but somehow it feels like the curve is different and Nethack has more interactivity in general.
Admittedly Kobold 'zerkers are great fun :D
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!I want to ascend just once before moving on to another Roguelike. I mostly stick to Valks, even though I find Wizards more fun.
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.I play Nethack, Spelunky, Crawl, and the Doom Roguelike when I please :D Somehow it's possible to avoid Damn You, Muscle Memory!
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!You're right, Crawl has less Easter Egg stuff and wacky cartoon logic than Nethack, and that sucks. I like stuff like the sinks and towels and Tourists.
I also like games that fight fair. Crawl may kill you over and over, but it feels less... capricious, somehow. Like all the losses are actually my fault instead of the game punishing curiosity.
They assed first. I am only retaliating in an ass way. -The Dead Man's LifeFor me, I find the randomness more of a challenging invitation to try and steal Rodney's amulet.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!Anyone know if there's some forum or site that's the place to go these days for Nethack fans? There are times when I miss the Usenet era..
Okay, I've tried this game a few times and never gotten very far in it...how the heck does one go about "getting started" in it so to speak?
Somehow you know that the time is right.There's the "official" Wikihack wiki for Nethack, they've got a list of community sites.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!Probably best to go on You Tube and watch one of the tutorials there.
Thanks.
Been playing a bit of Nethack lately and it's a mighty unforgiving game, but it's fun. Where can I find a version that doesn't use the ASCII graphics, because I know there are ones with sprites a la Dorf Fort sprite packs (or so the wiki leads me to believe)
edited 27th Apr '12 2:10:28 AM by Balmung
There are tile binaries for Nethack for Windows. I'm using a simple one.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!If you want a better one, find something called Vulture's Eye...
Give me cute or give me...something?So far, I've just been on alt.nethack and have gotten about 3 Samurai and a pair of Valkyrie characters killed.
Playing the game on my phone now. Second caveman run at the moment. First murdered his dog accidentally reading a scroll and then wore cursed levitation boots. Funny how I didn't consider levitation to be a curse until I couldn't stop when I needed to.
"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984Re: tiles. May as well engage in self-promotion, and link to my tile set, which are sort of an enhanced ASCII.
Thread ressurection.
I tend to play on the online server.
One YASD I remember was going to the oracle and dying of starvation.
I tend to play as Gnomish or Elven Wizards.
I avoid spoilers as much as possible.
I also tend to be a kleptomaniac in-game.
I killed a shopkeeper once.
edited 16th Aug '12 1:34:55 PM by Classifiedzerogoki
"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol BadguyGot approximitely two dozen ascensions under my belt.
Nethack stands unique in that it still manages to be a challenging game, in spite of me having finished it so often. I don't think any game in the history of gaming has done that to me, at least without going Harder Than Hard difficulty level or doing some other challenge stuff.
The boring games are the ones where everything goes well through and through: a magic lamp or two in the Mine Town, which usually boost me up more than enough to get to the castle, find the Wand of Wishing, wish for Ascension Kit, and storm through the rest of the game. The fun games are when something happens to mess things up, such as the priest who found no levitation and was forced to swim through the elemental plane of water, reducing all the potions and scrolls in my Bag of Holding to nothingness and complicating the matters for the rest of the game a lot. Or the wizard that managed to get his dirty hands to the Amulet without eating anything or wishing anything through the entire game, and probably would've gotten away for it if it weren't for that damn meddling Demogorgon. Only time I ever met him, and I might've gotten away with that too except I panicked.
This game is amazing and I should pick it up again. It's been a while.
The funny thing is that it's easier to get a good run in Nethack than it is in Crawl, even though Crawl roots for you with some anti-frustration features.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!I still have to ascend. The farthest I've reached was the area where the Oracle and the Sokoban puzzle are.
"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol BadguyI've gotten to Gehennom twice. The first trip ended when I forgot to put my AoMB back on before gorging on dead giants (I was interrupted by some monsters, okay?!). Can't quite remember how the second one ended, though.
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they will never sit in.I've made it as far as the Astral Plane before once. Zot is nigh-impossible to reach without a good midgame/endgame plan.
The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!I'll promote UnNetHack, which is a variant that is still under active development, and makes some nice changes (automatically opening door and picking up thrown weapons for example). Adds a few new critters, and includes more variations for stuff like Sokoban, Fort Ludios, and the Castle. Also, the guy actually guarding the Amulet is now Cthulhu, who is just as nasty as you would expect.
edited 28th Sep '12 10:49:42 AM by Geoduck
Does it add the entire Lethe patch, or just Cthulhu? I've been wanting to try Lethe for a good while on my Nethack, but it always stubbornly refused to comply.
Edit: I gave it a better look, and it would seem to do all the things my own essential patches do, plus a couple other stuff. It doesn't add anything from Grunthack, though, which I would've liked, and a couple of the changes seem controversial as hell (wishing for magic lamps?! Are you mad?!).
edited 29th Sep '12 2:16:05 AM by Potman
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I've come to like Dungeon Crawl more.
What?
They assed first. I am only retaliating in an ass way. -The Dead Man's Life