Rebuild of Evangelion

Well, nothing like being the only two people left on earth to encourage you to connect with someone.

Considering the last two times Shinji tried to connect with someone, I think not going for a third is understandable. The human race might not survive.

edited 30th Aug '14 9:15:22 PM by kiukiuclk

Well, I would like something to the effect of Shinji growing to take comfort in those around him in a way somewhat resembling some sort of friendship. Wrong place, wrong time, however and quite possibly too little, too late.

Well, Japan is gonna get 3.0 on TV soon, so considering how this sort of thing worked last time, we could very well get a new PV for FINAL. Fingers crossed.

On another note, I was chatting to the folks at Eva Geeks about Shinji and Rei's interactions with eachother in 2.0, and they think that there was nothing about it that could be seen as shipping material. Here's what they said:

"As for Shinji and Rei's relationship in 2.0, it's true that everyone was interpreting their relationship as romantic: Asuka after the elevator scene, Misato when talking to Ritsuko in her car, even Kensuke when he teased Shinji about Rei's party. So it's hard not to see their relationship as romantic, and the movie certainly wanted us to see it like that. But there's one very important detail that the characters didn't take into account: the very high level of emotional stunt Shinji and Rei suffer from. Compared to them, everyone, even Asuka with her issues, are more emotionally stable than them, so they see their relationship with the lenses of emotionally stable people: this boy and girl interact a lot and are even doing some services for each other, they must be in love!

Except that Shinji and Rei aren't in the state where they can have (or even recognize!) romantic feelings, they are still much more backward in the scale of emotional development (you can thank Gendo for that, especially since Rebuild have the disturbing implication that he made it on purpose for both of them), they are basically in the phase of "oh, so that's how it feel to be close to someone, eh that feel nice! So how about I do care somehow for him/her, I don't like to see someone I finally could get close with be sad".

And putting my shipper goggles to a side, I always saw their interactions in 2.0 as far more sibling in nature than romantic, especially Shinji toward Rei: - he sees her musing alone in the Aquarium: "Hey, what are you thinking about all alone like that?" - "you doesn't like that bento? Here, take some soup." - "you don't eat during lunch time, here, I made you a bento, you have to eat you know?" - "you weren't at school yesterday, were you sick? Are you feeling better now?"

Seriously, lets put aside shipping goggles and imagine that they know that they are sibbling, doesn't it looks like exactly like a big brother taking care of his little sister?

And on the other side: - "Ikari-kun doesn't have a good relationship with his father, maybe if I make a dinner where they are together they will be able to talk and resolve their differences."

That's something people often overlook: the first and foremost objective of that dinner party was to make Shinji and Gendo closer, not to have Shinji-kun all for herself. She even sent invitations to all of NERV staff, not exactly an intimate dinner between two teenagers in love. Hell, she even sent an invitation to Asuka, her "romantic rival"! That just show how romantic feelings are the last thing Rei had in mind when preparing that dinner!"

Thoughts?

I don't think it particularly matters either way; the point is that Shinji was growing emotionally close to someone and developing a functional, mutually affectionate relationship with someone only to have that taken away from him like any other chance of him being happy.

I think there's a valid argument there - I remember hearing from this/other sites online about how the Shinji/Rei romance was clearly canon, and so was rather taken aback when I actually got around to watching 2.22 and there was a complete absence of explict romance.

There was subtext, and there was clear affection between Shinji and Rei, but affection and romance aren't the same. I can see why it's interpreted that way, but I think people stating that Shinji/Rei is a canon romance in Rebuild are vastly overstating things.

Now, whether you interpret the relationship between Rei and Shinji as being like siblings depends on your perception of how siblings relate to one another. Which, going by some of my other fandoms, is something highly up for debate.

I will say that it was highly ambiguous as to what exactly Shinji and Rei's relationship was like in 2.22. In a sense, Anno left it up to the viewer to decide how to view it, which even carries over into 3.33. Definitely a lot better imo than in the original series, which basically hammered home the Shinji/Asuka thing like no tomorrow.

My problem with Eva Geeks is that they are dead set that Shinji and Rei's interactions were purely that of siblings, and not anything else, despite the fact that it could be interpreted either way. That, and they are pretty much determined that he will end up with Asuka because of their physical appearances, and that she's basically the only one left to relate to him, and vice-versa, essentially saying that she'll be with him cause that's all the shipping that can happen. Thoughts?

edited 4th Sep '14 10:11:40 PM by LDragon2

So 3.0's TV broadcast is airing right now. Shouldn't be long now until we hear of a new preview.

See above for the former.

Dead-set may have been the wrong word to use. That's just the consensus I got from scrolling through the forums.

edited 5th Sep '14 7:28:03 AM by LDragon2

Image that came during the airing tonight of EVA Q (aka Rebuild movie 3) on TV.

LET THE SPECULATION BEGIN!

edited 5th Sep '14 7:30:28 AM by MyssaRei

Praise be unto Anno, we have a title card

Edit: 'd

The front page of evangelion.co.jp/ has been updated to for the first time in two years to reflect the new title. If he wasn't already, Anno confirmed for king of trolls.

edited 5th Sep '14 7:39:22 AM by TheAirman

Very cryptic, Mr Anno.

S.W.A.G.^*  Sophisticated Wild-Ass Guess Time!

So I just got done rewatching 2.22, and the "preview" reminded of the fact that the japanese titles for the films follow the "Jo-Ha-Kyū (roughly: beginning-break-rapid)" structure, only 3.0 replaced "Kyū" with "Q", for "quickening."

And then I thought: 1.0 = Jo, 2.0 = Ha, 3.0 = Kyū/Q. FINAL now has the title "3.0 + 1.0." As we all know, 3.0 + 1.0 = 4.0 but that is irrelevant to this.

Why is it in that order, and not "1.0 + 3.0"? Well, if 3.0 = Kyū, and 1.0 = Jo, then 3.0 + 1.0 = Kyū + Jo. Kyū + jo = Kyūjo. And according to Google translate (and some other online translators to backup my jackshit translating skills based entirely off of Google), "Kyūjo/Kyuujo/Kyujo" is the romaji for 救助, which apparently is one of the kanji for "aid/relief/rescue."

Also worth noting is the Kyujo Incident, a failed coup d'état to prevent the Japanese surrender during WWII.

As for if the title were "1.0 + 3.0" or "Jokyū?" The only thing I could find on Jokyū is Jōkyū, the Japanese era ranging from April 1219 - April 1222.

Thoughts? Ideas? Anything? Has Evangelion stolen my soul? Has the unhealthy over-analysis of everything over at Evageeks corrupted me?

ANNO YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

edited 5th Sep '14 1:24:09 PM by TheAirman

The second-to-last setence.

Yeah, thats pretty much what I thought.

Well, I gotta go to work now.

And that's why he's the master.

Yeah this title is definitely the expert trolling of Anno, hell we were teased with the title some time ago too.

Either way, we are in for a ride. Hell it was so much fun watching the chat for the Evangelion subreddit freak out over this title.

Also, hasn't anyone noticed we were just on the page 333? Maybe there's a deeper meaning here? It can't be a coincidence right?......I need a break.

edited 5th Sep '14 5:24:42 PM by JRPictures

The great thing about Eva is you don't really NEED deep plot analysis to enjoy it. I see a lot of people getting caught up in that, but even on a surface level, you still have a really compelling character study and interpersonal drama, and the main themes and beats are pretty self-evident. Everything else is just a bonus.

While the symbolism and theme can get quite hamfisted at times, I agree.

Though, are we sure that we're not overthinking this title? It could just be as simple as 3.0 + 1.0 = 4.0.

Hey, I did mention that Evageek's unhealthy obsession with over-analyzing everything corrupted me. It was only the 2.22 preview's mentioning the "Q/Kyu" thing that sparked the fire those godless heathens built.

edited 5th Sep '14 8:49:11 PM by TheAirman

Did you link it wrong? It won't load for me.

Videos not showing up.

What is it?

edited 7th Sep '14 5:02:22 AM by JRPictures

I miss the days when 'trolling' was a synonym of 'acting like a stupid bastard', not 'being smart and clever'.

Edit: Notification, I'm not saying THIS is a stupid bastard move, just that I think the term has lost its proper meaning. Being a troll is acting like a malicious pest that PRETENDS being smarter than you without actually being so.

edited 7th Sep '14 7:52:56 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

Agreed. Now the term 'troll' has become just another stupid meme - which really eggs me on, considering that memes are my Berserk Button.