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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#7652: Aug 29th 2013 at 10:51:02 AM

Technically, it's a light novel. More info here. You could also look Danbooru/Gelbooru for the nice colored illustrations.

edited 29th Aug '13 10:51:45 AM by MarqFJA

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#7653: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:02:40 AM

She was created by US from merger of various animal genes and she has cat's ears (nekomimi) under her headset (she still has human ears too)

How... gratuitous.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#7654: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:30:52 AM

Hey, at least it explains why Rebuild!Mari is so catlike, or why she's so at home with The Beast mode.

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kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#7655: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:44:48 AM

Sadly enough, making catgirls is far from the most irrational secret government project in the Evangelion universe.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7656: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:17:03 PM

So a theory I've heard from the dudes at Eva Geeks is that Rei and Yui were transferred from Unit 01 to Unit 13, hence why Unit 01 wasn't working. What say you?

Boy, if that's the case, then Rei and Yui are pretty much dead. sad

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#7658: Aug 29th 2013 at 8:38:40 PM

[up][up] To fit with the theme, shouldn't unit 13 have Kaworu's mother in it?

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7661: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:04:54 PM

[up] Well, to each his own.

But I must say, I take issue with the fact that some people say 3.0 is awesome just because of how dark and depressing it is. If there are two tropes I hate more than anything, it's Shoot the Shaggy Dog and True Art Is Angsty.

I just hope and pray that 4.0 won't be either of those.

JRPictures Since: Nov, 2010
#7662: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:06:19 PM

[up] You do realise this EVA right?

A franchise well known for being overly dark with messed up characters.

Hoping that the Rebuild's finale will end on a good note seems a bit silly especially after what 3.0 does.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7663: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:25:10 PM

[up] I get that. Heck, of course I want it to be dark and the like.

What I don't want is for it to wallow in its darkness and depressing tone to the point that it feels hopeless. Again, there needs to be a balance. Being dark is great and all, provided that it doesn't come at the expense of the plot and characters. 3.0 missed this imo.

JRPictures Since: Nov, 2010
#7664: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:29:04 PM

Fair enough.

I'll still need to pass my judgement on 3.0 eventually subbed, dubbed or otherwise

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7665: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:49:32 PM

[up] Can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.

Also, I'm all for a good tragedy and the like. Heck, I can even tolerate a Downer Ending. However, a good tragedy needs to at least get to its depressing climax because the characters simply tried the best they could. You can't have it be because they were acting like idiots. While a Tragic Hero is usually not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, and can indeed be an idiot, you can't make the situation a no-win scenario, nor can you have everyone else be idiots simply to make the story darker than it needs to be. A good tragedy is brought up because the situation could have been either avoided or done it a much better way, and the characters were either misguided or did what would be considered the right thing, but circumstances made it otherwise.

And again, the characters can indeed be rather stupid and idiotic, but it has to make sense from within the story. Yes, it works for shows like Madoka Magica since all the main characters are simple schoolgirls who are barely entering puberty and thus are at that emotional stage in life. It does not work for something like 3.0, in which the characters have had over a decade to mature, yet still act like misguided teenagers. I don't care that their brains didn't grow as much as usual. 14 years is going to change and harden someone.

edited 29th Aug '13 11:52:43 PM by LDragon2

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7666: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:01:24 AM

Onto another note.

Thinking back to the ending of 3.0, I feel that it could have been made much more powerful if Shinji didn't just mindlessly grab the Spears. Like, have him indeed listen to Kaworu and the like, and suddenly be forced to face the reality of what will happen should he grab them. Maybe even have him try desperately to deny it, with Kaworu pleading to Shinji, even saying that if he grabs them, Gendo will win. Have Shinji falter every time he tries to reach for the spears, only grabbing them after he says that he's not going to just do nothing or something to that extent. Heck, have Asuka not just attack relentlessly, but also show her softer side as a last-ditch effort to appeal to Shinji, maybe have her even apologize for how she treated him.

Really, just something to make the situation not be brought about by a lack of communication and reason, but instead come about because of Shinji's desperation. While what we got did attempt that, the way it was shown makes it seem more like Asuka and Kaworu didn't do enough to reason with him. Have it be more along the lines of this scene:

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7667: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:12:22 AM

On another note, I'm still not sure how exactly Shinji was able to pilot Unit 13, unless Kaworu was manipulating it.

And no, I'm not buying that Rei was inside its core, considering Fuyutski's words. Eva Geeks is home to a whole bunch a wacky theories after all.

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#7668: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:26:48 AM

[up][up] I agree with that.

[up]I would guess Shinji could pilot 13 bc he was "synched" with Kaworu, and by that, with whoever was inside 13. Presumably all the piano playing had a purpose beyond conserving animation budget. It was kind funny that they were supposed to pilot it together and then Kaworu never did anything. They could have jammed a Rei clone in there also. Close enough, and they got spares.

edited 30th Aug '13 12:27:34 AM by kiukiuclk

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#7669: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:27:44 AM

@vandro I loved Episode III too.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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#7670: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:37:49 AM

When I watched I knew full well what was goin' to go down. But then I was like "Anakin, no don't do that, noooooooooooooooo...." and like "Mace Windu? Not Mace Windu!" and then I was like "No, stop, that's padme." and then the final fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan felt really satisfying.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7671: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:45:15 AM

Episode III is indeed the strongest of the prequels.

That said, I hope 4.0 takes nods from Return Of The Jedi instead.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#7672: Aug 30th 2013 at 1:13:35 AM

Eva-13 like Rei Q's Eva don't have AT-Fields, which means someone like Shinji should be able to pilot it. Well 13 did get a AT-Field once Fourth Impact happened though if I recall.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#7673: Aug 30th 2013 at 1:30:32 AM

@vandro Honestly, Palpatine was the best part of the movie.cool

Anakin versus Obi Wan was awesome but way too long. The ending was great though. "I HATE YOU!"

Now Yoda versus Palpatine. That was a great fight.

"Order 66"...no don't kill them.;____;

edited 30th Aug '13 1:31:15 AM by MadSkillz

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kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#7674: Aug 30th 2013 at 5:54:36 AM

I couldn't take any scene with Palpatine seriously. He was hilarious.

JRPictures Since: Nov, 2010
#7675: Aug 30th 2013 at 5:58:16 AM

To be fair Palpatine is the embodiement of Evil Is Hammy

We weren't exactly meant to take him all that seriously anyway

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