Warhammer 40,000

"Of Baal"? Or maybe "of the Blood", for the tribe that raised him?

Not sure how some of the other Primarchs got their last names (well, out of universe they are mostly obvious references). I assume most of their names came from their homeworlds (though that doesn't explain Konrad).

Presumably Curze heard one of his targets wondering if they'd been cursed and liked the sound of it.

That's a really good one, too...I couldn't find a version that had the entire thing through GIS.

On a different note, does anyone know which episode of If the Emperor Had a Text-to-Speech Device does this image◊ from the character page come from?

Who is on #Team Agemman for post-Calgar chapter master?

How could you get a self-sufficient Civilized World to collapse to the point where it would secede from the Imperium by sheer bureaucratic ineptitude?

Mismanagement of crisis-handling efforts in the wake of a serious meteorite impact, causing what would've been a temporary semi-localized disaster into a planetwide famine, which is then compounded by the off-world Administratum authorities screwing them over by misfiling the planet's repeated request for urgent aid, taking too long to process it (as usual), or worse, telling them off for supposedly making an mountain out of a molehill (i.e. "stop whining, your situation is not as horrible as you're making it up to be") and that they should deal with it themselves (not uncommon, apparently; much of the Administratum is so out of touch with the reality outside their bureaucratic processes, a fact that is compounded further by rampant misconceptions, that they can genuinely overestimate a planet's ability to deal with a certain level of disaster). Whether or not the Administratum's actions/decisions are partly influenced by resource-siphoning matters such as a major ongoing crusade to liberate some human-inhabited sectors, dealing with another crisis on a "more important" planet, or something else of similar nature, is up to you.

For a civilized world it's even easier to come up with a story (because civilized worlds are generally pretty normal, no insanely high populations, lethal environments, esoteric departments, etc present); just look at the decline and fall of any major empire and why the first places to break off (the periphery in almost every case) did so.

But basically this, in an empire of a million worlds the law of large numbers dictate that someone is going to fall through the cracks. And said someones are likely to take offense to that.

Hell, if they are forgotten about for so long (like living memory long) you could say that they assumed the Imperium (or at least their Sector overlord) was destroyed and they just kept on trucking.

entire sectors have been condemned unjustly or just plain forgotten about until it was too late due to the sheer scale of the bureaucracy of the Administratum, one wrong pen stroke or a misfile and that's it, you're done, and worlds that were under attack or in dire need of aid are often forgotten due to this, well, ignored until they discover they're late on their taxes... send someone to investigate and ohshittheNidsarehereRUN!RUN!RUN!RU-AAAAAAAAAAGH!

edited 1st Dec '15 3:31:25 PM by FieldMarshalFry

In an empire of a million worlds, the bureaucracy is so labyrinthine, incompetent and corrupt that it could have been twenty million worlds last week and they'd still be insisting you needed to file the correct form to requisition lasguns to deal with whatever threat just ate nineteen million worlds.

Yeah, the modern Administratum is a disgrace to the original bureaucracy that Malcador had founded during the Great Crusade. Ah, the days when shit got done in a timely manner.

and the Space Marines had an entire Legion at their command instead of a mere Chapter, the Imperial Army were actually well equipped and had entire battalions of Banebaldes, yet somehow performed even worse against Chaos Space Marines...

Didn't the CSM also recruit half the Imperial Army (with their Baneblades)? And then there was the war on Mars that caused the loss of most of their technology...

Those Chaos Space Marines were under the command of Primarchs, were armed for all-out warfare and with full support from spacefaring fleets, were gigantically unified forces instead of the modern disparate Chaos warbands that rarely fight under a single banner, and they were all under the command of the greatest strategist in the history of humanity other than the Emperor of Mankind (namely, Horus).

Yeah, there's that too.

edited 2nd Dec '15 2:06:22 AM by MarqFJA

I mean examples like the orbital defences in the Battle of Calth, where the Solar Auxilia had a strong defensive postilion, better equipment than the IG, and a massive numbers advantage, yet got absolutely slaughtered by the World Bearers while the majority of their forces were fighting the Ultrasmurfs, and the few victories they got were literal self sacrifices, and of course the Smurfs are the focus and get the praise for any victories

You mean the orbital defenses that were annihilated by a massive ship wrecking everything in the course of ten seconds through the Kessler effect?

no, World Bearers invaded the orbital defence platforms, and slaughtered everyone with minimal casualties as the Solar Auxilia were acting as Red Shirts so the Smurfs would look even stronger, despite in the crunch being more than able to beat Chaos Space Marines

The kamikaze ship was the opening shot at Calth. I'm not offhand familiar with what General Melchett is referring to.

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Calth#Orbital_Defence doesn't get much recognition due to them not being Space Marines, though since I play IG I am a bit biased

The Word Bearers also had access to Daemons and other Chaos goodies, which the HH era Imperium was almost totally ignorant of and had almost no counter to beyond the relatively few Sisters of Silence and the loyalist Primarchs.

Jumping topics for a bit - the Astartes character page is now over 400K characters. Might be time to split the chapters to their own page, possibly Characters.Warhammer 40000 Astartes Chapters.

How about giving the First (and probably Second) Founding Chapters their own page, and lump the others in another? The former group are held differently from all other Chapters due to their lineage tracing directly to the original loyalist Legions, since the Second Founding only split the Legions into separate Chapters, while all subsequent Foundings were about creating new Chapters from scratch using tithed gene-seed.

Eh, I'd rather keep them all together for now for simplicity's purpose. If/when we get enough info on other chapters to warrant another split, something like that could be the way to go.

Well, if you say so.

On a different note... Do any of you know of a non-crossover fic that gives an actual name to the Emperor?

edited 2nd Dec '15 2:07:30 PM by MarqFJA

Someone on DakkaDakka hypothesized his name was "Liam Pourer".