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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#28951: Jan 15th 2018 at 10:53:18 AM

[up]Right thanks.

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theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#28952: Jan 15th 2018 at 2:13:03 PM

Trajann Valoris is still such an awesome name >3<

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chaosconsortium Since: May, 2011
#28953: Jan 15th 2018 at 10:05:22 PM

Trajann is kittens understudy since he's busy playing children's card games with Magus.

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#28954: Jan 15th 2018 at 10:12:34 PM

[up]And winning.

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#28955: Jan 16th 2018 at 12:14:48 PM

Kinda expected Valoris to have a bit more oomph. Guess we'll see when his full datasheet comes out.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#28956: Jan 16th 2018 at 12:17:42 PM

[up]

Kind of surprised we're getting a named Custodes HQ off the bat instead of a nameless Tribune. This works too, I guess, but given the expectations of Custodes he has to have crazy stuff on his profile.

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#28957: Jan 16th 2018 at 1:00:42 PM

We're getting both though. 4 characters, one of them unique (Valoris).

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#28958: Jan 16th 2018 at 1:16:07 PM

Custodes Troops Preview

Warhammer 40,000 has seen rules for the Adeptus Custodes before, but in the new codex, they’re more than just a collection of units – they’re an interconnected fighting force, rich with potent synergies for those with the cunning to unlock them and a Detachment-wide special rule that significantly rewards the disciplined list builder.

Firstly, the Aegis of the Emperor has been tweaked to also provide a 6+ additional save against any mortal wounds caused by psychic powers. This is both a thematic change and a practical one, representing the Emperor’s protection of his most cherished servants. It also helps you defend your units against Smite and other attacks that would otherwise cut through your high Toughness and excellent saves.

The Emperor’s Chosen gives every Infantry and Biker unit in a pure Adeptus Custodes Detachment +1 to their invulnerable saves, to a maximum of 3+. In practice, this means that none of your units, including Custodian Guard, will ever have worse than a 4+ invulnerable save. Combine this with the high Toughness and Wounds characteristics of Adeptus Custodes units, and your army just got a lot more durable, particularly against the kind of heavy weapons – lascannons, krak missiles and Dreadnought power fists – that previously presented a more substantial threat to the Adeptus Custodes.

The second part of the Adeptus Custodes Detachment rules is less immediately powerful, but still invaluable change to the army. As you may know, with Chapter Approved and every codex so far, most Troops in the game gain some version of Objective Secured, giving them scoring priority over units without the rule. Under the current rules, the Adeptus Custodes have struggled to score objectives compared to more armies with a higher model count, unable to cover every objective at once and without the necessary squad size to outnumber other units. All that is about to change…

All Infantry and Bikers in the Adeptus Custodes army gain Sworn Guardians, meaning whether or not they’re Troops, they’ll count as controlling an objective marker if the enemy doesn’t have any units with similar rules or more models. In practice, you’ll still have to work hard to neutralise your opponents’ Troops choices, but your Terminator-armoured Allarus Custodians and jetbike-mounted Vertus Praetors will be able to dive deep into enemy lines and secure objectives, while your Custodian Guard are under much less pressure to race to critical battlefield locations.

Custodian Guard themselves have received a variety of discreet improvements in the new codex. For one, they’re now BS 2+, allowing them to get a little more out of their surprisingly powerful attacks with their Guardian Spears. For another, they can now be taken in units of three, meaning if you build a Vexilla and a Shield Captain out of your Custodes set, you’ll still be able to build a playable unit with the remaining models. Finally, the Custodian Guard combine superbly with some of the new Stratagems in the book, particularly Piercing Strikenote , which makes wounding larger foes much easier.

It’s something of a tradition of the Adeptus Custodes to deliver golden death from the doors of an equally golden Land Raider. From Golden Light They Comenote , on the other hand, opens up new deployment options for your Custodian Guard, as well as other units in your army.

However you build your Adeptus Custodes army, the new codex is packed with benefits for your army. If you’re yet to start an Adeptus Custodes force, the Talons of the Emperor boxed set is a great way to do it, while if you want to learn more, we’ll have an in-depth preview tomorrow of what the new codex means for the war machines of the Adeptus Custodes – including the new Vertus Praetors.

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#28959: Jan 18th 2018 at 1:34:16 AM

Wanted: Winged Hussar marines

SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North Since: Aug, 2009
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#28960: Jan 18th 2018 at 3:13:33 AM

Do Ravenwing Bikers count?

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#28961: Jan 18th 2018 at 8:21:44 AM

Do you guys think that the Regimental Standard warrants its own page/forum topic? Web Original?

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theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#28962: Jan 19th 2018 at 7:52:48 PM

So, I thought of something today: you guys remember Aexe-Cardinal? What if instead of World War I, it was a Feudal World that had Emperor-worshipping kingdoms that were fighting an evil Chaos-worshipping empire, and it turned into high fantasy or something like that?

edited 19th Jan '18 7:53:05 PM by theLibrarian

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#28963: Jan 19th 2018 at 7:56:41 PM

[up]Kinda like 1st ed WHFB? Complete with bolters and plasma pistols?

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#28964: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:01:29 PM

Eh, not really. Like, knights wear primitive power armor, sword and shield-wielding armies of troops from both sides battling one another in melee, "necromancers" tap into Nurgle's powers to create armies of the living dead, maybe at one point a particularly pious warrior priest/Emperor-worshipping psyker goes all "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!" on a Bloodthirster, stuff like that.

Then again I don't know what 1st Edition was like.

edited 19th Jan '18 8:01:43 PM by theLibrarian

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#28965: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:05:42 PM

[up]Basically that minus the power armor.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#28966: Jan 19th 2018 at 8:06:25 PM

Ah xD

But yeah, basically the setup is that this Feudal World was originally a loyal Imperial subject. Civil war began when one of the stronger kingdoms fell to Chaos, and began marching against the other kingdoms in order to take the world. Kingdom after kingdom fell over centuries, millennia even, of war, creating a massive, fell empire of horrific Chaos cultists a la the Pannion Domin or something like that, and an alliance of smaller kingdoms against them. Maybe they have primitive super-soldiers that are made like proto-Astartes. Sorta like WFB-level Chaos Warriors, but more medieval.

edited 19th Jan '18 8:10:49 PM by theLibrarian

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#28967: Jan 19th 2018 at 10:50:09 PM

Reminds me of this fan-made chapter I saw on 1d4chan, where the twist is that because they pissed off the cogboys they are stuck with really primitive armor and weapons. Like, medieval level stuff.

edited 19th Jan '18 10:50:33 PM by M84

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#28968: Jan 20th 2018 at 6:03:12 AM

Well I do have a custom Chapter of my own that uses swords, but that's as replacement for combat knives and is an integral part of the transition from Scout to actual full-blown Battle Brother.

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#28970: Jan 20th 2018 at 11:28:21 AM

re Valoris: I find it amusing that his model clashes with how he was described in The Emperor's Legion. He looks too smooth, too clean. The novel described him as everything that Valerian (our Custodian viewpoint) wasn't — mean looking, battle-scarred, and not easy on the eyes.

The Emperor's Legion, p 76:

Valoris was nothing of the kind. His visage was hard-edged, broken by scar tissue, the skin veined and vivid. His lips were thin, his nose flared, his neck sinewy. In that low light, no doubt amplified by my own fear, he looked almost ghoulish.

SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#28971: Jan 20th 2018 at 12:36:39 PM

I have been at day 1 of the Warhammer World campaign weekend. 3 games today with 2 lost &1 won.

Game 1 was against Slaanesh Night Lord's and I lost. The highlight was my Freeblade Knight Errant killing a squad of Terminators, a squad of Raptors & a Terminator Lord on its own.

I won game 2 against a Ynnari army commanded by a relatively inexperienced player. The highlight of the game was my Dominion squad killing his Scourges in clear we combat & half my army wiping out his Solitare, his Writhblades and the Visarch with shooting.

The last game was against a Death Guard army with 3 Contemptor Dreadnoughts, a Levitation Dreadnought, a Daemon Prince & 3 Chaos Lords (it was his less cheesy list). I was wiped out but it was quite close until he destroyed my Knight. The highlight was my Canoness Warlord killing a heavily wounded Lord in close combat and the fact that I destroyed one Contemptor and wounded the other 2, the Levitation and the Prince.

Overall it was still a fun day despite 2 losses. Warhammer World are also selling reprints of the 1988 Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness book so that was a must buy.

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#28972: Jan 20th 2018 at 3:24:55 PM

Finally got myself some actual models! No FLGS near me and no GW in my continent, so I got what they had on offer at a hobby store that is the only place I know of they sell Warhammer stuff here (and like, piled up in the back of a shelf). Wanted Stealth Suits, but had to make do with a Pathfinder box. Also got the Ultramarine paint kit (since it was, well, there), and on getting home and doing some digging I found out I still need a clipper, plastic glue and possibly a mould line remover. Crack is Cheaper is about right, huh?

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#28973: Jan 20th 2018 at 3:47:33 PM

[up]Just wait until you realize you need a drill, pins and magnets for larger models. And water base glue to mix with sand and flock for basing. And a decent scalpel and set of blades to go with razors for detail work. And a supply of toothpicks for pinpoint painting, to go with multiple brushes-thin, sharp detail, soft partial fan for big stuff, stiff cylinder for tracing...etc. And a metal frame with clips to hold heavier models together while they dry, and a new flexible lamp you can angle while you work, and a collection of sealable plastic containers to keep your bitz somewhat organized, and...... you get the idea.

edited 20th Jan '18 3:47:44 PM by ViperMagnum357

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
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#28974: Jan 20th 2018 at 5:01:02 PM

They're called the Ascendant Swords, actually tongue

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SebastianGray Since: Apr, 2011
#28975: Jan 21st 2018 at 1:42:05 PM

Back home after the second day of the Warhammer World campaign weekend and although I lost the two games today, they were both probably more fun than the games yesterday.

The first game today was against a mixed Daemon & Alpha Legion Chaos army. I was winning for the first half of the game but after my opponent teleported in a unit of 20 Bloodletters who went on to take out my Knight in a single round of combat, things went a little downhill. I did give his army a bloody nose though, wiping out the Bloodletters with massed firepower, along with his Horrors and a second smaller unit of Bloodletters. My Warlord Canoness even managed to immolate his Herald of Nurgle with a single shot of her Inferno Pistol before she was killed in close combat by his Daemon Prince of Slaanesh.

The final game of the weekend was against a horde of Orks (3 units of 30 Boyz) and due to the scenario objective I had to advance rather than hang back and shoot. Things went as you would expect but I did manage to wipe out two of the Boyz mobs and take out his Gorkanought. My second Canoness (who had no special close combat weapons) managed to survive 3 rounds of combat against his Warboss and one of my Rhinos even managed to kill a few grots in close combat after it charged them[lol]

Overall it was a fun weekend with some cool narrative battles and I will definitely look to go to the next campaign weekend in May that will be continuing the storyline. Hopefully I will do a bit better then.

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