Warhammer 40,000

There is a company called Victoria Miniatures that makes totally-not-Imperial-Guard miniatures that are women, but they're darn expensive resin miniatures.

IIRC, technically men have lots of x-chromosomes (as it's the default Chromosome shape). It's just one Chromosome that's "Y"-shaped.

@math

My own pipe-dream is that someone could remind GW that the human body produces a chemical called "melanin".

Its Age of Sigmar but these◊ two◊ are official paint schemes.

So it appears I got ignored on the last page due to everyone going on about the potential changes, so I'll ask again:

The Maelstrom of Gore bundle seems like a good start for my Chaos Marine army, but I'd like recommendations for other stuff for it as well. Perhaps that "Getting Started: Chaos Space Marines" bundle they have on the GW site?

Also, would sorcerers be a complete no-go for a Khornate army or would they work, just have to be Magic Knights?

Also, my FLGS has the Age of Sigmar box set with all the Khornate figures. Think those would be good for Khornate Cultists?

I see. So a Chaos Lord, 10 Chaos Space Marines and a Hellbrute for like 80 USD is a good deal? I dunno, maybe it's just me and my having primarily bought the Horus Heresy box sets, but that seems a bit... light.

And I was more referring to the "Khorne hates sorcerers" thing that appears all the time in the fluff.

Also, I'm not in Europe. I'm in the U.S I mean, I'd love the Chaos half of Dark Vengeance, but cross-continent shipping is murder on prices.

... Now that I think of it, the only time I got something shipped to me from Europe by someone was also 40k related (I won a 40k Cosplayer's giveaway for 3 custom-made purity seals)

edited 15th Jan '17 12:50:26 PM by BlackSunNocturne

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The Start Collecting series is almost universally really good value for money, and you can never go wrong with having more Troops - they're going to be the bread and butter of almost every army and formation you're ever going to bring.

I don't know if there are particular rules pertaining to Sorcerers in Khorne-themed armies, but he could just be on loan from the Thousand Sons or some other Chaos warband with sorcerers in it.

Also also, if you live in Europe, I have the Chaos half of the Dark Vengeance set (which includes cultists) unpainted and unassembled somewhere in my house, and I'd be happy to ship them somewhere.

edited 15th Jan '17 12:44:35 PM by math792d

Just talking about my own personal wishes since you brought yours up.

Is more a thing in miniture representation than lore since there a lot of diverse force in the imperium.

Which it make my next question: what historical regiment would you like to see in the imperial guard?

Having done a bit of a dive on historical regiments recently, I'd actually really like to see a non-stereotypical Soviet WW 2 army. Less 'rar, we have numbers and that's basically it' and more aggressive artillery warfare mixed in with a heavy emphasis on close combat shock armies, with maybe a little bit of tank warfare thrown in for flavor.

A side question: Would the Forge World Red Butchers unit^note 5-man Squad of Terminators, 4 with dual axes and the sergeant with chanfists work in a 40k World Eaters army without any major changes?

'cause, I really like the look of the minis, and having some Terminators would be nice in a World Eaters list.

Only issue is that it looks like the Sergeant has an uncovered head.... and I'm not really a fan of helmet-less CSM.

edited 15th Jan '17 2:16:37 PM by BlackSunNocturne

I don't remember if Chaos Termies can dual-wield axes, but they can take the same standard lightning claws as their loyalist brethren, and you could just fig leaf justify that.

Chaos players might be able to tell you differently.

Going back a few - Duncan's done dark skin tones if anyone's interested.

I'd count them as having paired lightning claws. They don't natively have any other two-melee-weapon options, except for squad Champions and Termie-armour characters (who have access to the Terminator weapons section of the inventory instead of just unit upgrades).

Ah, alrighty then.

Damn, I thought there was rules for dual-wielding weapons aside from lightning claws, 'cause I've seen Assault Marine models dual-wielding bolt pistols and chainswords.

There are definitely rules for dual-wielding weapons. The problem is that a unit cannot wield two weapons unless it can actually buy them, and Chaos Terminators simply are not given much in the way of options to do that - apart from trading both their weapons for dual claws, all of the things they can swap their ranged weapon for are different ranged weapons (combi-weapons, generally, although in a squad of 5 you can get a heavy flamer or reaper autocannon).

Those Assault Marines are able to wield bolt pistols and close combat weapons because their entry has, under weapons and wargear, "bolt pistol, close combat weapon". Chaos Termies start with a power weapon (generally an axe or maul, unless you've scrounged some Termie-scale power swords from other kits) and combi-bolter, which cannot provide a bonus attack, unlike a bolt pistol (it's simply too bulky).

edited 15th Jan '17 8:42:15 PM by CountDorku

Actually, these days, even dual-wielding boltpistols is a no-no (sort of) unless your entry specifically allows it.

It used to not matter, because models could usually only fire one of their weapons anyway, but any model with two pistols has Gunslinger now, so as far as WYSIWYG is concerned, it does actually make a difference.

That's going to be awkward in the context of the kitbashed squad of Legion Destroyers I've built, and specifically of using them as counts-as Chaos Marines with bolt pistol and CCW.

Oh well, my group is pretty lenient about WYSIWYG, so I should probably be able to get away with it.

edited 15th Jan '17 9:15:48 PM by CountDorku

I see.

So.... I can't have a Chaos Marine Terminator dual-wielding power-axes? Damn, I liked those models too.

Also, why are there so little Chaos Marines with chainaxes? I expected to see more in the Khorne Berzerkers set.

Side note, acronym noob here, but "WYSIWYG"?

In any case, the Forge World stuff (aside from the World Eaters model conversion kit) is more eyecandy for me. All I know is I'm definitely going to get the Maelstrom of Gore and the Start Collecting: Chaos Space Marines bundles.

Though I'm not sure what else would be necessary.

edited 15th Jan '17 9:39:56 PM by BlackSunNocturne

WYSIWYG = What You See Is What You Get, pronounced "wizzywig".

..... alrighty then

I can understand that. I dunno, I could ask people at my FLGS if they'd be cool with terminators dual-wielding power axes.

But yeah. Anything else you'd recommend for a Khornate warband aside from what I've already mentioned?

Yeah, from a practicality point-of-view, I think most people will be able to grok it if you just say, "These guys with two pistols don't actually have two pistols," or, "These guys have two pistols, but one has no ammo."

'That guy is just trying to pull off a cool Cypher cosplay.'

edited 15th Jan '17 11:27:09 PM by math792d

@Nocturne: Let me start over, I think I screwed up somewhere while explaining this.

There are basically three kinds of Chaos model in Terminator armour:

• Basic Chaos Terminator.
• Terminator Champion (the "sergeant" of a Terminator squad).
• Independent Character in Terminator armour (a Lord or Sorcerer who has bought Terminator armour as an upgrade).

Terminator Champions and Lords/Sorcerers have access to the Chaos Armoury: a list of categorised and standardised upgrades. Basic Chaos Terminators do not; they only have the options contained in their army list entry.

All Chaos models in Terminator armour start with a combi-bolter and power weapon.

The Chaos Armoury contains an option to replace a combi-bolter with a power weapon. The basic Terminator list does not: its options are "swap a power weapon for a power fist, chainfist or lightning claw", "swap a combi-bolter for a combi-melta, combi-flamer or combi-plasma", and/or "swap all weapons for a pair of lightning claws".

Thus: only Champions, Lords and Sorcerers can legitimately wield paired power axes.

Any of them, however, can wield paired lightning claws that happen to look like axes, assuming your group has any degree of leniency for What You See Is What You Get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPb17XN5W0g

Looks like the Eldar will be the focus of the next bit.

I still that Khornate sorcerers exist, just that they blend in with their brothers on the battlefield and are all daemons all the time off the field.