Doctor Who

The Invasion of Time was pretty good until the last two episodes dog-legged.

They were men transformed by the Daleks into pig-creatures for slave labor; Laslo was one of them, though he managed to escape before the Daleks brainwashed him.

That too.

edited 1st Jun '15 4:39:09 PM by kkhohoho

The Daleks have a history of using salve labour (they don't have any hands to lift stuff with, I guess) but I also have no idea why these particular slaves had to be half-pig.

Because pigs are scary, I suppose? Does anyone in the world actually think pigs are scary?

Dalek logic. Although you could Fan Wank it by saying they wanted to decrease the slaves' intelligence to make them more compliant, and only had pigs at hand to splice their DNA with.

This isn't even the only time aliens have genetically manipulated pigs — the Slitheen did it too.

I wonder if Davies had a fetish or something.

In the sense of fixation. Not necessarily the other kind of fetish.

edited 2nd Jun '15 6:01:59 AM by unnoun

But it could be the other kind of fetish. There's always that possibility.

Maybe in the Whoniverse pigs are easy to genetically manipulate to gain human features (or the other way around). They are used for some medical testings in our world anyway because of some compatibility, if I recall correctly.

Its hard to ascribe anything the cult of skaro due in the two-parter to 'logic'

I think the best way to gel everything is just to realize that the Cult of Skaro were not good at what they do and possibly had early-onset plot-crazy.

Even before Caan made me hate him forever for having a master plan that made absolutely zero sense.

You have to be a bit crazy to be in the Cult of Skaro. They were all about coming up with unorthodox ways to preserve what is Dalek. The fact that they even considered genetic impurity is insane by Dalek standards.

Yes but I suggest that even by Who standards they were off their rockers. We only see, like, two plans out of them.

First plan is okay since infinite daleks is a pretty solid strategy. Leaving the giant void vacuum around for anybody to use, less so. But lets just assume they didn't think of that because it'd be silly to assume the void worked that way.

Next plan is a masterpiece of illogic. Making me thing that their first plan being decent was kind of a fluke.

And then Caan goes on to have a worse plan but he's explicitly supposed to be bonkers by that point so I don't think we're supposed to count that in the track record.

Why Eccleston left. Sort of.

Huh.

He kind of looks like the Master when he has a beard.

Three individu—well, that's a lots less vague than it could be.

It's still vague to me. I know one of them's probably RTD, but I've no clue who the other two might be.

Probably Julie Gardner and Mal Young.

Ah. (Had to look them up, because I had no idea who they were; now that I know, yeah, it's probably them.)

edited 3rd Jun '15 11:06:10 AM by kkhohoho

Might be John Barrowman. He and Eccleston don't seem like they'd get along.

Stealing from Wack'd to post a Day of the Doctor thing.

I know one of them was a director who acted inappropriately on set, this is the first time I've head him say three people though, rather than one. So I have little idea if the other two got involved with the original problem, or if it was a matter of the original problem being poorly dealt with, or if it was some other problem.

Yay weetabix!

Deadly Assassin!

I only know of Mal Young's existence because Chip did a face-on-a-milk-carton gag about him in his Two Minute Time Lord live at Gallifrey One essay.

I haven't actually seen it, I just heard it twice because he put it on the 2MTL feed and it was left in place in the RFS episode where they played the recording of their opening panel.

So I definitely won't be available on the 7th.

The 6th should work.

6th looks like it'll do nicely for me as well, anyone else?

I'm good for the sixth.