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This is the thread for discussion of The Order of the Stick plot, characters, etc. We have a separate thread for discussing game rules and mechanics. Excessive rules discussions here may be thumped as off-topic.

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edited 18th Sep '17 1:08:08 PM by Fighteer

FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#42726: Jun 16th 2017 at 10:04:44 AM

wild mass guess And this was how Belkar died, skewered by the falling Greenhilt sword. wild mass guess

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#42727: Jun 16th 2017 at 10:11:40 AM

...I wouldn't mind that.

But I doubt it will be that anti-climactic.

...right?

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shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#42728: Jun 16th 2017 at 10:56:08 AM

[up] Seems like a very survivable injury to someone of Belkar's level.

Is there any chance the living giant could grab one of the ballistae and shoot at the Mechane with it?

Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#42729: Jun 16th 2017 at 10:59:35 AM

[up]If they weren't completely out of sight by now, sure. Also, the giant would have to figure out how the ballista works, and it needs to be undamaged in the fall. Also, those things are supposedly real sensitive to moisture, so the snow probably messed it up real good.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#42730: Jun 16th 2017 at 11:26:54 AM

Assuming she survives the fall in the first place.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#42731: Jun 16th 2017 at 11:55:54 AM

[up]

In 3.5, the maximum damage you'd get for falling a mile is, at best, 20d10 (or was it d6?) damage, and you can still save for half.

Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#42732: Jun 16th 2017 at 12:03:21 PM

Or, to put it in different terms: She'll live.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#42733: Jun 16th 2017 at 12:53:12 PM

Ah, Roy, pragmatic as always when it comes to the details of NP Cs' lives.

In fairness, it wasn't really their business anyway. This was an internal dispute among a set of contractors hired to perform a service for the Order. Since they're still performing that service, the mutiny is no more the Order's business than, say, a payroll dispute that the wizard who teleported them to Cliffport may have been having with the Sapphire Director of Human Resources.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#42734: Jun 16th 2017 at 1:04:34 PM

[up][up][up] It's 20d6, which means an average of ~80 damage. A baseline frost giant has 133 hp and she didn't take much damage in the fight with Roy, so it's extremely doubtful that the fall killed her. Not to mention that she's implied to have some class levels.

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Lost in Space
#42735: Jun 16th 2017 at 1:12:13 PM

[up][up] Well, if I were leading an expedition of this nature, it would be valuable to know that a mutiny occurred and was quelled while I was busy saving their asses from frost giants. Maybe it's just me...

edited 16th Jun '17 1:12:23 PM by Fighteer

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DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#42736: Jun 16th 2017 at 2:46:15 PM

Valuable to you, not so much to the contractors...

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#42737: Jun 16th 2017 at 6:25:32 PM

@Tobias: Yeah, but they're *PC's*. Getting muddled into everyone and their cats' social lives and fixing all their personal problems is what they do.

Like so.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#42738: Jun 19th 2017 at 12:43:18 PM

When Roy died from falling damage, was he just on low HP to begin with or was that an instance of the Chunky Salsa Rule?

Also, when did we last see Belkar?

Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#42740: Jun 19th 2017 at 12:51:43 PM

He states mid-fall that if he had a healing potion he might be able to survive the falling damage.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#42741: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:01:35 PM

[up][up]/[up] Ah, right.

Belkar was mopping up after V and Haley here, but they were stationary for a while and he didn't catch up to them then.

Come to think of it, are they still fighting that cleric??

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#42742: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:10:20 PM

More questions: do polymorphed creatures retain their mass*? Because if so I'd really like to see Bandana's face when she finds out they ditched all their ballistae instead of the fully-grown Allosaurus belowdecks XD

*I know Rich homebrewed his own Polymorph rules, but I don't know if OOTS uses them.

Michael So that's what this does Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
So that's what this does
#42743: Jun 19th 2017 at 1:11:09 PM

The allosaurus was seen being carried by a raven.

edited 19th Jun '17 1:12:48 PM by Michael

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#42744: Jun 19th 2017 at 4:57:22 PM

Bloodfeast was hit with Baleful Polymorph, which causes him to take on all characteristics of his new shape except that he gets to keep his hit points, alignment, and memories of his previous self.

The effect is permanent and must be manually dispelled or reversed. After 24 hours, Bloodfeast has to make a Will save. If he fails, his mind and hit dice fade away, becoming normalized to his new form. He loses all memory of his life before and, functionally, is just the wild animal he was turned into forever.

The SRD does not say if this save has to be made every 24 hours or just once at the 24 hour mark but I'd assume the former. Whatever the case, that threshold has likely passed several times by now. It's unlikely Bloodfeast has any knowledge that he ever was an allosaurus.

His hit points and mind will return if the effect gets dispelled, however. That is still a thing that can happen.

EDIT: Also, it speaks very highly of that blue-scarfed caster on Tarquin's team that he was able to overcome Bloodfeast's probable +16 Fortitude bonus; the SRD has no stats on an Allosaurus, but he's not so different from a T-Rex. Don't f*ck with Epic characters, man.

edited 19th Jun '17 5:01:36 PM by TobiasDrake

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#42745: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:08:27 PM

Huh, interesting about the Shapeshifter Mode Lock angle, I'd been assuming all along that he was a Sealed Badass in a Can just waiting to be released (which admittedly raises the question of why not now?) — I wonder if Belkar has been thinking the same thing?

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#42746: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:16:14 PM

Well, he'd need access to break enchantment or something equivalently powerful, which is not a toy that a Ranger gets to play with naturally. I can't imagine that he's loaded down with ranks in Use Magic Device, either, so a wand or scroll would be more likely to backfire and turn him into an iguana.

edited 19th Jun '17 5:17:06 PM by Fighteer

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Queen of Good Things, Honest
#42747: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:18:13 PM

He still is a Sealed Badass in a Can, he just doesn't know it. The moment they Break Enchantment on him, all of his memories will return.

It's a Chekhov's Gun waiting for its moment to fire.

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Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#42748: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:24:26 PM

A dispel should be well within V's capabilities, but V's not around at the moment. Also it might be a bad idea to try it without Belkar around to control him.

edited 19th Jun '17 5:24:49 PM by Gilphon

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TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
Queen of Good Things, Honest
#42749: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:27:22 PM

Well, they're not going to fire it now. The Frost Giants are off the ship and they're gaining altitude. There is no way in which the present situation can be improved by the sudden presence of a hungry dinosaur on deck. [lol]

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Wryte Pretentious Git from A Disney Pocket Dimension Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Pretentious Git
#42750: Jun 19th 2017 at 5:31:26 PM

Sure there is, it sets us up for a Jurassic Park 2 homage when the empty Mechane arrives in Firmament.

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