The Order of the Stick

...it got four seasons.

It was pretty cool, but never really went anywhere. It had an awesome premise, but no actual plot.

Everyone remembers 'Jack and the Rave'.

Mad Jack for me.

Forgot to comment on this one.

I'm convinced Haley could convince Gods to become Atheists..

edited 21st Oct '14 6:47:25 PM by HandsomeRob

That would probably require an Epic use of Diplomacy... or Bluff, more likely. It's a bit beyond her now, but maybe in the future...

edited 21st Oct '14 1:39:40 PM by Fighteer

I think it depends on how you Rules Lawyer it, right? You could swing it as just trying to convince someone to change their religion. Which wouldn't be hard.

But doing that to a god? No sane DM would ever let you get away with it.

Again, we're talking about the difference between what the letter of the rules could possibly allow you to get away with if you squint hard and get very creative, and what the rules are intended to allow you to do.

Rules lawyering it wouldn't help in this case, though, since I just remembered that Epic Bluff counts as a mind-affecting ability and gods are immune to those.

edited 21st Oct '14 1:44:32 PM by Fighteer

I don't think I've ever met a DM who was sane.

Is an insecure god an atheist?

Thank you!

Whoops.

Hey, look. We live in internet culture. Being insane is a compliment here.

...dammit, I forgot the Sincerity Mode pothole.

DC 80 athletics check lets you climb through an opening that is physically to small for your head. That's the ballpark where impossibility stops being impossible.

You can't bypass immunity to mind-affecting effects with a skill check, though. The rules do have limits, and gods cannot be Epic Bluffed. They could be bluffed mundanely, but their Sense Motive checks tend to be absurdly high.

Edit: In fact, deities above a certain rank automatically get perfect success (equivalent to a free "take 20") on any skill check that they make unless it's opposed by a deity of equal or higher rank.

For whatever it's worth, you might be able to Epic Bluff a demigod into renouncing their religion, at least for the duration of the suggestion that the skill implants.

edited 21st Oct '14 3:20:24 PM by Fighteer

Just remember that I was just joking.

I want to make that clear.

Dungeons and Dragons Means Never Having to Say You're Kidding

Pssh. You say that, but then I get shanked because I thought one class was better than another.

Never take chances with any fandom.

Fandoms are dumb. What I do is just find people who like the things I like for the same reasons I like them and ignore everyone else.

But you'll never have any fun that way!

Now if you'll excuse me, I have an angry tirade to add to the Shipping Discussion page...

Is atheism even a thing in DND? The existence of the gods is common knowledge and it's easy to verify that it's true.

Atheism in Dn D wouldn't really be not believing in gods so much as choosing not to worship any.

Nay Theism.

That's misotheism, which is my actual faith.

edited 21st Oct '14 9:52:58 PM by TobiasDrake

>Pssh. You say that, but then I get shanked because I thought one class was better than another.

Well yeah. The power and usefulness of the classes in DND is objectively calculable. You're only allowed to like some class more than the others, but which one is better is a measured fact.

Details on ''Blood Runs in the Family''
Bit too pricey to get at launch though.

edited 22nd Oct '14 5:58:15 AM by ACW