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demarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#6951: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:19:59 AM

Wouldn't Vader already have told him?

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#6952: Sep 4th 2014 at 8:20:40 AM

Vader lied to him.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
demarquis Since: Feb, 2010
TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
demarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#6955: Sep 4th 2014 at 9:13:33 AM

Yeah, but the people who know the truth are standing right there.

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#6956: Sep 4th 2014 at 9:31:15 AM

He might think they're lying.

Hell, he's being played by the GM, who goes out of his way to make unintented consequences hurt the PC's at every opportunity. So if they explain that Vader killed Obi-Wan, Fett will think they're lying. And if they don't say it for fear getting Fett mad, he'll instead get angry that they hid the truth from them.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#6957: Sep 7th 2014 at 8:20:56 AM

Episode is up

So Let Me Get This Straight

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#6958: Sep 7th 2014 at 9:26:52 AM

I wonder if the EU ever dealt with political fallout from the revelation that Luke and Leia were Darth Vader's children.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#6959: Sep 7th 2014 at 9:36:50 AM

She did get a whole species to ally with her because she was their Heroes child.

MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#6960: Sep 7th 2014 at 10:54:36 AM

"Their hero" being Anakin Skywalker, or Darth Vader? It wasn't widely known that they were one and the same, was it? Really, it wouldn't surprise me if Darth Vader was practically unknown among the general public.

TotemicHero No longer a forum herald from the next level Since: Dec, 2009
No longer a forum herald
#6961: Sep 7th 2014 at 11:03:21 AM

In the (now mostly Jossed) EU, it was established that Darth Vader was fairly well known as the Emperor's "enforcer". If I recall, they established that Han Solo actually knew of Vader before the events of the main trilogy.

Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#6963: Sep 7th 2014 at 11:29:46 AM

"Their hero" being Anakin Skywalker, or Darth Vader?

Vader. Turns out there was enough of his body in that metal suit for them to pick up his scent, and then recognize both his children by that scent.

edited 7th Sep '14 11:30:00 AM by CorrTerek

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#6964: Sep 7th 2014 at 11:55:46 AM

[up] And then she wound up becoming their hero for real rather than just the daughter of their hero because she discovered and revealed to them that their supposed saviors were actually dragging them through the mud and keeping them in servitude by prolonging their suffering rather than actually helping them.

It really came back to bite the Empire in the butt after that. Hard.

edited 7th Sep '14 11:55:54 AM by TheSpaceJawa

Rotpar Since: Jan, 2010
#6965: Sep 7th 2014 at 12:13:08 PM

This subject brings to mind the second season of Code Geass. The masked protagonist leads an army of rebels against The Empire and none of them he knew was secretly an outcast member of the royal family. His army immediately turns against him when they find out he's a prince, despite that information coming from another prince who's one of their greatest enemies. If I recall, they're even willing to gun down their Ace pilot because she's willing to hear him out.

Marcach Since: Oct, 2013
#6966: Sep 8th 2014 at 12:11:29 AM

IIRC "He can mind control you if you let him open his mouth and likely had mind controlled several of your allies" were a pretty big part in that.

edited 8th Sep '14 12:11:49 AM by Marcach

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Rotpar Since: Jan, 2010
#6968: Sep 8th 2014 at 9:48:07 AM

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It's been a long time and I don't remember all the details. Still comes down to an army believing their enemy—with an outlandish story about magic—over their commander. Distrust I can understand, concern over how much they're being used and what his end goals are make sense, but they're immediately willing to destroy the literal brains and brawn of the rebellion because the bad guy said they're related.

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#6969: Sep 9th 2014 at 5:33:57 AM

So, in the next scene, Chewbacca isn't being sonically tortured, he's suffering from a monster of a hangover. I laughed out loud.

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maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#6970: Sep 11th 2014 at 6:43:48 AM

Seemingly more serious today.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
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#6971: Sep 11th 2014 at 9:32:18 AM

Does Jim's character even have a splanch? OH CRAP The original Han Solo—the one Jim killed and assumed the identity of—WAS a shapeshifter. Assuming Fett's been in contact with Jabba the Hutt, he's not gonna believe Jim's protests that he doesn't have a splanch.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#6972: Sep 11th 2014 at 9:39:52 AM

Only one way to find out for sure...

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Rotpar Since: Jan, 2010
#6973: Sep 11th 2014 at 1:01:25 PM

Pretty gruesome territory today.

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Lost in Space
#6974: Sep 11th 2014 at 1:04:40 PM

We were going to get here sooner or later. This version is at least a bit more toward the Black Comedy side.

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Rotpar Since: Jan, 2010
#6975: Sep 11th 2014 at 6:34:54 PM

Oh yeah, torture was incoming, and at least Vader is asking questions this time. But then there's a second round of revenge torture to come along with a little vengeful organ chop-shop.


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