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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfDistance The galaxy is vast]], after all.

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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfDistance [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale The galaxy is vast]], after all.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]Go [[HarsherInHindsight/StarWarsLegends here]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]



* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]


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* HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: HarsherInHindsight: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him [[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: After learning that Han uses aliases plus his past as a con artist, Bria's mother and brother are insistent about him not being trustworthy. Her brother wants to call the authorities. Bria and her father both insist he's changed, and she owes her freedom from slavery to them. They're right, but really her mother and brother aren't being unreasonable (despite not liking Han to begin with because he's too working class for Bria in their view). How are they to know that he has changed, and his rescue of Bria wasn't a scam too?

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: After learning that Han uses aliases plus his past as a con artist, Bria's mother and brother are insistent about him not being trustworthy. Her brother wants to call the authorities. Bria and her father both insist he's changed, and she owes her freedom from slavery to them. They're right, but really her mother and brother aren't being unreasonable (despite not liking (even if their initial reason for disliking Han to begin with -- because he's too working class for Bria in their view).view -- is shallow and snobbish). How are they to know that he has changed, and his rescue of Bria wasn't a scam too?
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up not betraying him later.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up not betraying him later.[[Literature/TheNewRebellion in later years]].]]

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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.
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** When Han is forced to put in at Alderaan for repairs, the first transmission he receives is a recorded welcome video from Bail Organa, holding his young daughter in his lap. Think about it for a minute...
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** Boba Fett has one of the galaxy's best intelligence networks, but can't find out Renn Tharen's name so he has to ask Han? This seems pretty odd. It wasn't a secret who Bria's father was-he's even a prominent merchant. All that seems like a contrived method for drama.

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** Boba Fett has one of the galaxy's best intelligence networks, but can't find out Renn Tharen's name so he has to ask Han? This seems pretty odd. It wasn't a secret who Bria's father was-he's even a prominent merchant. All that seems like a contrived method for drama. Or it may be an excuse to get Han delivering the message that Bria's dead instead of him, since at least he knows Renn, and cared about her. Fett may be showing a soft side and his respect for Bria here.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: After learning that Han uses aliases plus his past as a con artist, Bria's mother and brother are insistent about him not being trustworthy. Her brother wants to call the authorities. Bria and her father insist he's changed, and she owes her freedom from slavery to them. They're right, but really her mother and brother aren't being unreasonable (despite not liking Han to begin with because he's too working class for Bria in their view). How are they to know that he has changed, and his rescue of Bria wasn't part of a scam too?

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: After learning that Han uses aliases plus his past as a con artist, Bria's mother and brother are insistent about him not being trustworthy. Her brother wants to call the authorities. Bria and her father both insist he's changed, and she owes her freedom from slavery to them. They're right, but really her mother and brother aren't being unreasonable (despite not liking Han to begin with because he's too working class for Bria in their view). How are they to know that he has changed, and his rescue of Bria wasn't part of a scam too?

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** Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake)]].



** Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake)]].

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** Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in Boba Fett has one of the closet when galaxy's best intelligence networks, but can't find out Renn Tharen's name so he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go has to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting ask Han? This seems pretty odd. It wasn't a secret who Bria's father was-he's even a prominent merchant. All that seems like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake)]].a contrived method for drama.
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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[NoSenseOfDistance The galaxy is vast]], after all.

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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[NoSenseOfDistance [[SciFiWritersHave/NoSenseOfDistance The galaxy is vast]], after all.
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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale The galaxy is vast]], after all.

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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale [[NoSenseOfDistance The galaxy is vast]], after all.
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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though.

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** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though. It also makes little sense to just do a system-wide check on someone's ID when you know they come from another solar system. [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale The galaxy is vast]], after all.

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* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake)]].

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* FridgeLogic: FridgeLogic:
** So apparently the Imperial [=IDs=] ''only'' use retinal patterns? They also don't even use photos (or whatever) and so after Han gets his retinas surgically altered no one's the wiser as to his criminal past, meaning he can freely go into the Imperial Academy. No one notices that "Han Solo" had no ID prior to this apparently. Not only don't they use actual pictures of the person, but no DNA or fingerprints either. Yeah, maybe they can change those too. It would make things harder assuming [=IDs=] actually used pictures and other biometrics though.
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Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake)]].

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* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go?
** WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake).
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him later.]]

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* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go?
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go? [[spoiler: WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake).
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug, and Salla don't end up not betraying him later.]]


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* StrawmanHasAPoint: After learning that Han uses aliases plus his past as a con artist, Bria's mother and brother are insistent about him not being trustworthy. Her brother wants to call the authorities. Bria and her father insist he's changed, and she owes her freedom from slavery to them. They're right, but really her mother and brother aren't being unreasonable (despite not liking Han to begin with because he's too working class for Bria in their view). How are they to know that he has changed, and his rescue of Bria wasn't part of a scam too?
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting interesting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.


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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookie to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookie Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug and Salla don't end up betraying him later.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only Chewie, Roa, Shug Shug, and Salla don't end up betraying him later.]]



* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bria's farewell letter]] to Han in the first book, and his reaction to it.
** Jarik's [[spoiler: deathbed]] confession to Han that he lied to him about his name and was never related to him at all. Han says he always knew, though it doesn't matter and he's more than earned the name [[spoiler: and makes damn sure his death certificate reads Jarik ''Solo.'']]

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[[spoiler: Bria's farewell letter]] to Han in the first book, and his reaction to it.
** Jarik's [[spoiler: deathbed]] confession to Han that he lied to him about his name and was never related to him at all. Han says he always knew, though it doesn't matter and he's more than earned the name [[spoiler: and name, [[spoiler:and makes damn sure his death certificate reads Jarik ''Solo.'']]''Solo'']].
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* BaseBreaker: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].
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* BaseBreaker: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only could't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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* BaseBreaker: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only could't couldn't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookiee Wookie to leave him alone. The Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.



** Jarick's [[spoiler: deathbed]] confession to Han that he lied to him about his name and was never related to him at all. Han tearfully says it doesn't matter and he's more than earned the name [[spoiler: and makes damn sure his death certificate reads Jarick ''Solo.'']]

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** Jarick's Jarik's [[spoiler: deathbed]] confession to Han that he lied to him about his name and was never related to him at all. Han tearfully says he always knew, though it doesn't matter and he's more than earned the name [[spoiler: and makes damn sure his death certificate reads Jarick Jarik ''Solo.'']]
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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bria's farewell letter]] to Han in the first book, and his reaction to it.

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bria's farewell letter]] to Han in the first book, and his reaction to it.it.
** Jarick's [[spoiler: deathbed]] confession to Han that he lied to him about his name and was never related to him at all. Han tearfully says it doesn't matter and he's more than earned the name [[spoiler: and makes damn sure his death certificate reads Jarick ''Solo.'']]
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* BaseBreaker: Bria Tharen is either a flawed and intresting character in her own right, or an annoying Author Self-Insert MarySue who only could't end up with Han because [[DoomedByCanon Canon said so]].

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookie to leave him alone. The Wookie refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get a Wookie Wookiee to leave him alone. The Wookie Wookiee refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.



* NightmareFuel: Han overhearing Greelanx getting Force-choked by Vader for accepting a bribe and throwing the battle of Nar Shaddaa.

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* NightmareFuel: Han overhearing Greelanx getting Force-choked by Vader for accepting a bribe and throwing the battle of Nar Shaddaa.Shaddaa.
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Bria's farewell letter]] to Han in the first book, and his reaction to it.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get this wookie to leave him alone. The wookie refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get this wookie a Wookie to leave him alone. The wookie Wookie refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.



** WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bride was just unrelated icing on the cake).

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** WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bride bribe was just unrelated icing on the cake).
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** WildMassGuess: He probably ''did'' sense him, and let Han go to bear witness to what happened to traitors. After all, if he didn't have someone listening there was little reason to bother with the charade of acting like Greelanx had betrayed the Empire, when in fact he'd been ''ordered'' to lose (the Hutt bride was just unrelated icing on the cake).
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Han's repeated (failed) attempts to get this wookie to leave him alone. The wookie refuses to do so, because Han saved his life. Naturally, it turns out to be Han's future HeterosexualLifePartner, Chewbacca.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. Of all these friends only [[spoiler: Chewie, Roa, Shug and Salla don't end up betraying him later.]]

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* FridgeLogic: Why didn't Darth Vader sense Han in the closet when he strangled Greelanx? Or assuming he did, why let him go?
* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Han makes many smuggling friends, especially in ''The Hutt Gambit''. [[spoiler: Of all these friends only [[spoiler: Chewie, Roa, Shug and Salla don't end up betraying him later.]]

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