YMMV / Pokémon 4Ever

  • Awesome Music: The Japanese ending song Ashita Tenki ni Shite Okure (English translation: Let There Be Good Weather).
  • Ending Fatigue: The film feels like it's wrapping up when Celebi is revived by the time-travelling ones......only for Marauder to pop out one more time to try and catch it again, leading to another confrontation.
  • Fridge Brilliance:
    • In the beginning of the movie (40 years from the present), the poacher that was hunting down Celebi had a Scyther. Guess what Dark Celebi's monster looks like?
    • Related to the above, Scyther wasn't random. Neither was Houndoom. Both their dual types are at the very least resistant to Celebi's attacks, and both are strong against Celebi's own dual types.
    • While traveling with Ash and co., the viewers see that Sammy has a passion for keeping track of all the different Pokémon he encounters in his sketchbook, and once they realize that Sammy is Prof. Oak, it finally makes sense where the idea for the invention of the Pokédex came from.
  • Fridge Logic: If the Masked Marauder's Pokemon become evil, why do they continue to faithfully follow his orders? Wouldn't evil Pokemon be constantly rebelling?
    • It's possible that his dark Pokeballs also force the Pokemon into being subservient to him—which actually makes him sound more monstrous if you think about it...
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The Dark Pokémon are based off the TCG, though nowadays Shadow Pokémon may come to mind.
    • One of the poacher's captives is a Tyranitar, which Vicious would take for himself as his dragon. Late into the Johto saga, Ash and company would later meet a Tyranitar who also had a bad experience with poachers in general (if you haven't already guessed, it's the mother of Ash's Larvitar).
  • Ho Yay: There's quite a bit of subtext between Sam and Ash, though it becomes somewhat Squick-worthy when viewers find out who Sam is.
  • Nightmare Fuel:
    • Dark Celebi. Those emotionless eyes...
    • The Marauder in general- his mask with red eye holes and his sadistic glee in torturing both humans and Pokemon. He nearly brainwashes Celebi to death, geez! Even Jessie, James and Meowth were horrified of his sadistic methods.
    • When Celebi dies, its corpse looks like a realistic corpse, complete with withered, grey skin.
  • Nightmare Retardant: The twig monster Celebi was controlling. It looks creepy at first, but as it gets more screen time, it just looks ridiculous and out-of-place with its conspicuous and aged CGI. The creepy moan that it utters on the other hand...
  • Padding: The English version adds a sequence of Team Rocket fighting over a peach, which contributes nothing to the plot, even compared to the other scenes added.
  • Sequelitis: While few will say 4Ever is completely horrible, fans generally don't hold it up to the same level as the first threenote , and it's often agreed upon that this is where the movies degraded to being So Okay, It's Average at best.
  • Special Effects Failure: You can obviously tell that CGI was used for Celebi's twig monster.
  • Tear Jerker: Celebi's Disney Death.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • As That Dude in the Suede pointed out in his review of the movie, Celebi's death could've been used as an effective Green Aesop - if Celebi stayed dead, it would give the message that sometimes damage done to the environment can never truly be undone.
    • The movie itself also caused an example to occur within the main series: the GS Ball storylinenote  was meant to conclude with The Reveal that the GS Ball contained Celebi, in turn leading into a multi-episode story arc. When it was decided that Celebi would be featured in this movie, the writers shelved this and GS Ball storyline went unresolved to this day.
  • The Woobie: Celebi.
  • Writer Cop Out: Some people might see the emergence of dozens of time-traveling Celebi to revive the main Celebi as this, especially since the film, for some reason, faked the audience out once with a previous Deus ex Machina that turned out to not do any good.

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