YMMV / Pokémon 4Ever

  • Awesome Music: The Japanese ending song Ashita Tenki ni Shite Okure (English translation: Let There Be Good Weather).
  • Ending Fatigue: The film feels like it's wrapping up when Celebi is revived by the time-travelling ones......only for Marauder to pop out one more time to try and catch it again, leading to another confrontation.
  • Harsher in Hindsight:
    • The Dark Pokémon are based off the TCG, though nowadays Shadow Pokémon may come to mind.
    • One of the poacher's captives is a Tyranitar, which Vicious would take for himself as his dragon. Late into the Johto saga, Ash and company would later meet a Tyranitar who also had a bad experience with poachers in general (if you haven't already guessed, it's the mother of Ash's Larvitar).
  • Ho Yay: There's quite a bit of subtext between Sam and Ash, though it becomes somewhat Squick-worthy when viewers find out who Sam is.
  • Nightmare Fuel:
    • Dark Celebi. Those emotionless eyes...
    • The Marauder in general- his mask with red eye holes and his sadistic glee in torturing both humans and Pokemon. He nearly brainwashes Celebi to death, geez! Despite being a Team Rocket agent, he acts disturbingly more like a Cipher operative! Even Jessie, James and Meowth were horrified of his sadistic methods.
    • When Celebi dies, its corpse looks like a realistic corpse, complete with withered, grey skin.
  • Nightmare Retardant: The twig monster Celebi was controlling. It looks creepy at first, but as it gets more screen time, it just looks ridiculous and out-of-place with its conspicuous and aged CGI. The creepy moan that it utters on the other hand...
  • Padding: The English version adds a sequence of Team Rocket fighting over a peach, which contributes nothing to the plot, even compared to the other scenes added.
  • Sequelitis: While few will say 4Ever is completely horrible, fans generally agree that its the weakest of the original movies and pales in comparison to the first three note , and it's often agreed upon that this is where the movies degraded to being So Okay, It's Average at best.
  • Special Effects Failure: You can obviously tell that CGI was used for Celebi's twig monster.
  • Tear Jerker: Celebi's Disney Death.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot:
    • As That Dude in the Suede pointed out in his review of the movie, Celebi's death could've been used as an effective Green Aesop - if Celebi stayed dead, it would give the message that sometimes damage done to the environment can never truly be undone.
    • The movie itself also caused an example to occur within the main series: the GS Ball storylinenote  was meant to conclude with The Reveal that the GS Ball contained Celebi, in turn leading into a multi-episode story arc. When it was decided that Celebi would be featured in this movie, the writers shelved this and the GS Ball storyline went unresolved to this day.
  • The Woobie: Celebi.
  • Writer Cop Out: Some people might see the emergence of dozens of time-traveling Celebi to revive the main Celebi as this, especially since the film, for some reason, faked the audience out once with a previous Deus ex Machina that turned out to not do any good.


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