This page is an archive of the guesses made as to the identity of the silent Blue Freelancer in Red vs. Blue. (Archive, since his identity was eventually revealed as Captain Flowers.)
Flowers is the Mysterious Blue Guy
Because Burnie at one point said Flowers was around during Project Freelancer, this would be the perfect place for him.- Annnnd confirmed In fact we also find out that he was Agent Florida!.
- That actually makes perfect sense. It always seemed a bit weird to me that the Project Freelancer would go to such great lengths to recover, store, and guard the AI fragments, but when they needed to hide Alpha they just sent him off to some obscure simulation base with bare minimum security. If Flowers was a Freelancer, it might have been his job to protect and look after Alpha (and, possibly, make sure he didn't remember any of what the Director did to him) while he was in Blood Gulch.
- It'd also explain Flowers' seemingly easy-going attitude to the Red vs Blue conflict, with his knowledge that it was all a simulation rather than a real war. Him knowing that the Reds were just "low level rejects" would explain him referring to them as "those little rascals" instead of thinking of them as a more serious enemy. Although it's a little weird that Flowers would allow Alpha/Church to inject him with a mysterious chemical, if he knew he was really a mentally unstable A.I.
- The fact he accepted an injection from a mentally unstable AI is easily explained by the likely possibility that Church's time-travel shenanigans were just an artificial torture session by Gamma.** On the flip side of that, though, Flowers may have been assigned to Blood Gulch because of his easy-going attitude, which would have made him a poor leader in a frontline fight with Covenant forces, regardless of how well he got along with his men.
- Flowers actually seems to be the "safest" bet regarding the identity of MBG, and seems the one with the highest probability (well, either Flowers or MBG being a robot rather than a Freelancer). It's consistent with the established plot, upsets the status quo between the characters the least, and creates the fewest plot issues. That said, it'd also be one of the least "wham" reveals of MBG's identity. Also, from a completely meta perspective, many of the newer fans (from Reconstruction onwards) wouldn't even know who Captain Flowers is, so the reveal would be pretty lost on them. You'd also think that Flowers would at least be mentioned at least once in the present day sections if this is the reveal they're going for.
- If someone wants to skip the first five goddamn season of a show they can suck it up. Burnie said the freelancer seasons are for the fans that have been with them from the start, anyway.
- Rooster Teeth not having gotten Ed Robertson back in the booth yet would explain why MBG doesn't talk.
- After re-watching episode 50, it definitely seems from the dynamic between Flowers, Tucker, and Church that Church had newly arrived in Blood Gulch after Flowers and Tucker had already been there for some time. That would seem to suggest against Flowers being MBG and having brought Church with him to Blood Gulch.
- CONFIRMED
- Aha, they always said they wanted to end it all off with one last, glorious Brick Joke that explains so damn much...
The mysterious person in Blue is another pilot.
S/he's standing next to 479 and doesn't seem to play an active part in team A or B. So... probably a pilot. With grenades.- Jossed. MBG is clearly seen participating in ground operations in Season 10.
The mysterious person in Blue is Private Jimmy.
Based on two things. One, that he wears the right coloured armour, if not in the same style. And two, it was implied in Revelation that the Sidewinder incident was actually Tex attempting to rescue the Alpha. Private Jimmy was there to protect the Alpha, and didn't make it. (A goofy theory, perhaps, but this is WMG.)- You sir, are a genius.
- Jossed. See first entry.
Mysterious Blue Guy is a communications specialist
His armor seemed to have extra antennae on the back when he was chilling with Wyoming, plus the irony of the mute guy being a communications specialist is hilarious. The blue freelancer will never get a name.
Instead, he will be declared brain-dead from his injuries. And since Project Freelancer believes in "waste not, want not", his body, in a new set of light blue armor, will be used to house a certain disintegrating A.I. program and shipped to an arctic outpost where hopefully nobody will come looking for it ...- Alternatively, suffered amnesia, rehabilitated, and sent to a particular outpost to guard the body containing an AI unit....where he later takes the armor of his dead captain (and would also explain why he's such a badass for someone who's supposedly amongst the worst in the military). Alternatively, suffered brain damage, rehabilitated, and sent to a particular outpost with a tank.
- It should be noted that when he yanks out and throws the axe, it lands at the feet of the goons he tossed it at. Not exactly the worst throw. Ever. Of all time. But still...
- Jossed. He's Agent Florida.
The Mysterious Blue Guy is not a Freelancer.
First of all, he doesn't wear Mjolnir like all the others do. Just plain old marine BDU. While you could argue that only the top Frelancers get good armour like they did with abilities and A.I.s, he is working with the top Freelancers and it doesn't make sense to have such a weak link in a specialist team. So if he's not a Freelancer, then who would he be? My theory is that he is a UNSC Marine veteran who has been training the Freelancers, in much the same way of Chief Mendez and the Spartan Program. He travelled out on the field to make sure his Freelancers were making use of the skills they were taught, but by this point they have completely surpassed him. He is now the weakest link in the team - he gave away his position and spooked the Innies. If he survives this mission, he will be supposedly reassigned to some mysterious new conflict in the UNSC's outer colonies. Before he goes, he has some last words with the Freelancers, telling them he's proud of them and they should keep fighting the Innies, but not lose themselves along the way. Whatever happens to him next, like becoming Church, I have no clue. I've had this theory for a while now and I'll admit it is kinda shaky with current episodes. I like the idea of him turning out to be someone we already know, and the amount of foreshadowing we've had makes it seem more important, but until it is Jossed, I'm keeping to this WMG.- This seems a little too schmaltzy for Rooster Teeth. It's more likely he'd begin his heartfelt speech, get about two words out, and then get teamkilled or run over by a car.
- That can be arranged.
MBG: Things are changing. Whatever happens, promise me this-
Wash: Promise you what?
MBG: ...what I'm going to tell you. You nee-
York: When are you gonna tell us?
MBG: Right now. Don't let them-
Wash: Is this the promise?
MBG: Gaargh!
Carolina: Guys...
York: What? It's not our fault he's so evasive!
Wash: Yeah, sir. If you have something to say, say it!
MBG: You know what, forget it. I can't get away from this place fast enough!
A warthog driven by Maine smacks into him and carries him off screen.
MBG: Son of a bitch!- I like it.
- Just because he's wearing ODST armor doesn't necessarily mean he's not a Freelancer. Each individual Freelancer has customized armor to stand out. Perhaps the MBG's armor is based on personal preference.
- Jossed. Agent Florida. He was sent to guard the Alpha, and Project Freelancer made a cover by saying that Florida broke from the American landmass and sank.
Mysterious Blue Guy is the squad's grenadier
He's got a bandolier of grenade rounds strapped to his chest, and has a grenade launcher mounted to his assault rifle, which he uses to take out the minigun twins.- How is this a guess? That's like posting a WMG that Wyoming is the team's sniper.
- He could've maybe fleshed this out to be a WMG that MBG is Donut... but that's a stretch. Actually (this is just for fun, Donut is even more of a stretch than, say, Tucker)...
- Skilled grenadier
- His small stature is pretty feminine, which fits Donut's personality
- Donut and Tex had a tiny bit of a rivalry going on, possibly leftover Freelancer animosity. The grenade to the head made him forget his Freelancer background.
- While it's very likely, it's still a WMG since it hasn't been explicitly confirmed in-episode or by Word of God yet.
- Also, as to MBG being Donut, his slight frame (in the cast poster he's the same size as Carolina and C.T.) fits extremely well with this. The problem is, Donut has "one hell of a throwing arm", whereas MBG seems to be the exact opposite. His skill, if anything, seems to be with the grenade launcher (and possibly with trick shots/chain reactions, although one act isn't enough to generalize from yet).
Mysterious Blue Guy is a robot
No one batted an eye when he took an axe to the chest, and no one was worried about him, as though they knew he wouldn't be taken down by that. He might be an AI in a robot body.- Wyoming's "Looks like you still have some fight in you" comment was said with all the surprise and emotion of a guy realizing his phone still had enough juice to make a call... though it may just be Wyoming's sociopathy at work.
- Also why he doesn't speak; robots do not seem to speak by default (Lopez needed an upgrade in order to speak).
- This would explain why MBG doesn't seem to have an official designation or codename.
- The Director apparently had an army of robot bodies stored in the Freelancer training facility, so Project Freelancer using robots in combat isn't out of the question.
- MBG doesn't bleed after getting hit by that throwing axe, just like Tex. C.T. on the other hand bleeds heavily when Tex axes her. Then again, the fight scenes are really inconsistent with regards to whether characters bleed or not after being shot or sliced.
- It's possible the axe didn't penetrate his armor, but the impact was enough to knock the breath out of him. This made him lose his balance and fall, which stunned him further and kept him down for a few minutes.
- That's got a lot of credence when you consider CT was hit point-blank range by an axe thrown by Tex, who is almost assuredly much stronger than Pillman. Though MBG's armor is ridiculously light...
Mysterious Blue Guy is Lopez
Similar to the above. He hasn't spoken because he's a robot and hasn't gotten his speech synthesizer upgrade. Additionally, what was Lopez's answer to the Meta arriving? Fire a bunch of explosives at it. MBG's solution to the twins? Ditto. Granted it seems like an obvious solution, but these are the only times we've seen someone use rapid-fire explosives (barring the Meta's own Brute Shot spam). Mysterious Blue Guy is Caboose
Based off of the theory that Caboose is a Freelancer. Mysterious Blue Guy has been in Season 10 thus far and hasn't spoken; plus his armor matches Caboose's shade of blue, and he looks rather skinny, perhaps a young man!- To add to this. Episode 10 also shows us that the Blue Guy is bad at throwing.
- Also, it wouldn't be the first time Caboose tried to take out a superior opponent by dropping a huge crate on them.
- His weapon of choice is also the Assault Rifle. Caboose is the only one who consistently uses the Assault Rifle (I believe... at the very least, it's pretty uncommon).
- But wouldn't Wash recognize Caboose in Reconstruction, then? If not by his face and demeanor, then at least by name? Wash did work with Blue for awhile, enough to know him pretty well, it seems.
- Two possibilities: He knows Blue, but he doesn't know Caboose. Church went five years without seeing Tucker's face, and Caboose's name when he was a Freelancer wasn't Caboose, it was a state. Alternatively, he does know but he doesn't tell Caboose because he's forgotten due to... brain... stuff.
- Keep in mind, when Washington picks up Delta in Recovery One, neither appears to recognize the other. It doesn't hurt that it's been a while for them both, but between Washington's "brain... stuff" and the little interaction they had despite being almost consistently placed on the same team, it's probably that Washington just forgot some of the people in Freelancer. And if MBG didn't talk much, even less memorable!
- Also, if Caboose suffered enough brain trauma to forget he was a Freelancer, it'd make sense that his personality would have become somewhat altered. Perhaps Caboose's mental image of himself from inside his head was his original personality (in which case his voice is different enough that Wash could credibly fail to recognize him).
- Another similarity between the two of them is that both wear "obsolete" armor compared to their peers. MBG wears ODST armor amongst the Mjolnir-wearing Freelancers, while Caboose wears a Mark V helmet amongst the Mark VI-wearing Blood Gulch crew.
- Also, Rooster Teeth has said that none of the original main cast would have their faces shown, and MBG and Wash are the only two Freelancers whose faces haven't been at least partially revealed (although this point could apply to MBG being any of the original cast members).
- One drawback to this theory is that Word of God is that Rooster Teeth isn't planning to make any major changes to Caboose's character.
- Jossed.
Mysterious Blue Guy is Tucker
Running with the Caboose theory, Tucker was originally sporting Blue armor before he swapped with Cpt Flowers. Evidence supporting this theory: it would explain why Tucker is probably the best non-Freelancer fighter. Evidence against this theory: Tucker losing memories or failing to understand this stuff is far less likely than "multi-raided brain" Caboose.- Wasn't the reason he was the best non-Freelancer due to his alien encounter?
- Yeah, Tucker was pretty much about as useful as Grif prior to finding the sword and getting knocked up by Crunchbite.
- Pro: Tucker was reassigned by Command to actual field operations, instead of sent to another simulation site like everyone else.
- Con: Donut was also reassigned by Command to field ops; they can't both be MBG. Supposedly, Tucker was reassigned to field ops due to his connection to Junior, who appears to have been key to negotiating and maintaining peace with the aliens.
- Jossed.
Mysterious Blue Guy is Sarge
Just throwing this one out there to be complete. Back in Season 9, quite a few folks though MBG might be Sarge, since he was depicted on the cast poster wielding a shotgun. Also, it's implied Sarge used to be an ODST, and MBG wears ODST armor.- That said, MBG seems to favor the assault rifle rather than a shotgun in the actual series.
- Jossed.
Mysterious Blue Guy is Alpha Church
Rooster Teeth hasn't actually figured out who, if anyone, Mysterious Blue Guy is yet, and his increased prominence this season is simply a response to the unsual fan interest in the background character.
When asked about MBG's identity, Rooster Teeth were very evasive, and seemd to imply that that question might not be fully answered in Season 10. It's entirely possible they're still saving the guy for a future plot point, and are keeping his actions and attributes ambiguous enough for his identity to be one of several choices. MBG's increased presence in episode 9 and 10 may be a result of the unsual amount of interest in the background character from fans during Season 9. Mysterious Blue Guy is Recovery 6
This guy
. Blue guy, works for Freelancer, ODST helmet... anti-climactic as all hell, but just throwing it out there.- Jossed.
Mysterious Blue Guy is someone from the present-day timeline in an epic Stable Time Loop
Someone (probably Carolina or Wash, but also maybe possibly one of the Blood Gulch guys) goes back in time using Wyoming's time thingy to play some small yet significant role in the downfall of Project Freelancer. If it's Wash or Carolina, that would explain why he/she never seems to talk - they don't want any of the other Freelancers to recognize their voice. Also it would be a really neat way to tie together the current and past plotlines. Mysterious Blue Guy is the original human Allison
Reports of her death were greatly exaggerated (or, possibly, she faked her death) and now she's infiltrating Project Freelancer for the UNSC. Note that MBG is noticeably slimmer than the other Freelancers - this might be an indicator that he is actually a she. Also, MBG pretty badass, but not nearly as badass as Tex. But remember that Tex is based off the Director's memory of Allison, which might not be 100% accurate. Mysterious Blue Guy is both Private Jimmy and Caboose.
As Project Freelancer breaks up, Freelancer Agent Michael James Caboose is sent to Sidewinder along with the Alpha A.I. with orders to protect it, in order to keep Alpha away from Tex and/or Meta. During their time together, the two strike up a friendship (for whatever reason Caboose prefers to be called by his middle name, sort of like John Blake in The Dark Knight Rises). Then Tex shows up and massacres Caboose's team; Caboose makes a valiant last stand but for his trouble ends up getting his face bashed in with his own helmet. Unknown to Tex, Caboose survives, albeit with severe brain trauma, and without fully understanding why he picks up a new helmet, commandeers a smart tank, and makes his way to the Alpha's new location. By the time he gets to Blood Gulch, he's no longer able to distinguish between Director Church and Alpha Church, resulting in his obsessive loyalty towards the latter.- It's been pretty much confirmed that Alpha's mind was completely broken by the time the Sidewinder incident happened, and Church's memories of that incident were pretty inaccurate, and only true in broad strokes.
- During his time in Valhalla in Relocated and Recreation, Caboose has a brief moment of semi-lucidity and writes "Private Jimmy was here!" on the giant wall that the Warthog crashes through in Revelation.
- He writes it ''inside'' the wall. Inside. A. Solid. Wall. Also, Jimmy's skull shows up a few times in the series, even almost becoming 2nd in command of the Reds - Caboose's brain is doing pretty well without him. They were almost reunited after the mix up with Andy and Lopez, but alas, 'twas not to be.
- I like this idea. I like it a LOT.
MBG is Agent Montana
In Episode 14, the nametag Montana appears on the locker next to Washington's. None of the other background lockers have legible nametags on them. Occam's Razor would suggest that Montana is the name of the one Freelancer who has not yet been named.- This one's a little less solid, but Montana is right next to Wyoming, and MBG always seems to appear next to Agent Wyoming.
- Of course, this doesn't give any real hint as to his actual identity (if any), but at least it puts an official name to the guy.
- Jossed. He's Agent Florida. Montana was probably a subtle hint to [1]
Mysterious Blue Guy will reappear in the Current timeline.
He will fight the Reds and Blues, Wash and Carolina while defending the Director.- Possibly... but I see it more likely that he'll just show up in the last minute of the show as a Sequel Hook similar to Carolina showing up at the end of season 9. Probably won't even learn his identity, since RT seems to be having fun teasing that.
- Sort of confirmed. He appeared in the current timeline back in the Blood Gulch Chronicles as Flowers.
MBG was in the tank in episode 19
That tank gave Tex way too much trouble for something piloted just by a random mook. Given one of only things we know about MBG is that he fights with explosives, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to extend that to tank combat (exactly like how in Halo 3: ODST Mickey is the team's rocket launcher and also a great tank driver). Plus, it would explain his ridiculously light armor: he's usually in the cockpit of a tank.- I had the exact same thought, but upon rewatching I noticed that at the beginning of the fight the tank's pilot can clearly be heard talking to the gunner, and it's the voice of a generic Freelancer soldier. While it doesn't completely rule out him being MBG, the fact that his silence has seemingly been a plot point up til now does somewhat rule against it. As for the tank giving Tex so much trouble, it is after all a tank. Hell, it could be Sheila for all we know.
- The dialogue is ambiguous enough that it could simply be the gunner talking to himself (noteably, the pilot is completely silent once the gunner gets blown up).
MBG is Kaikaina Grif, who will turn out to be Agent Hawaii.
We haven't seen Sister in over four years and, save for Vic and Andy which could be a part of the rule, I doubt Rooster Teeth would let a somewhat important character just disappear like that. Let's look at my reasoning.- Her first appearance in the series was after there was a call to get reinforcements in Blood Gulch during Season 4 as a replacement for Captain Flowers. Who else came as back-up when one of the teams radioed for reinforcements from command? Tex
- When she joined the teams, she brought a ship with her. I doubt Command would take a chance and let a simulation trooper fly it if she really was a Dumb Blonde.
- According to Grif, she survived being trapped under ice for three hours and came out not only alright, but pregnant. Considering how Grif has survived a 500 foot drop before, it seems like survivability/endurance is a major trait for their family. In addition, MBG took an axe to the chest, fell to the ground... and later pulled it out and threw it at the Insurrectionist Gunners.
- Now for those who talk about her stupidity and similar incompetence to her brother, I guess I have to admit defeat. After all, because of her stupidity, there's no way she could be a Freelancer.
- Why didn't Wash recognize her? We haven't heard the MBG speak at all so far, and it's also possible they never really encountered each other enough for to recognize each other.
- Alternatively, MBG isn't Sister, but rather some other family member. Toughness is a genetic trait in that family.
MBG is Georgia
Somehow he/she wound up making him/herself mute with in an accident involving a jetpack.- Jossed. Georgia has completely different armor.
MBG is a character from Halo.
Among potential suspects are:- Captain Veronica Dare
- Captain Serrin Osman
- Warrant Officer Jun-A266
- Gunnery Sergeant Stacker
After season 10, Red vs. Blue will become intertwined with Halo canon, specifically the Reclaimer trilogy.
While the Elites were involved within the series from season 3 onward from time to time, Reconstruction started to incorporate the UNSC's existence a bit more. Relocated featured Tucker protecting an artifact in the desert and Caboose uploading Epsilon into what appears to be a Forerunner Monitor. Season 9 featured what may be Insurrectionists, who were known to have gone rogue against the UNSC in proper Halo canon. And to cap it off, Season 10 revealed that the Sarcophagus contained an Engineer.I wouldn't be surprised if the season ends with the Director taken care of for good, but ONI deciding to get involved. MBG is Doc
For starters, we know Doc works for command. As far as his pacifism, that is either a cover or, if genuine, something he picked up as a result of his time in the Freelancers. Finally, notice how Doc is the one that rallies the teams to go to Carolina and Epsilon's aid, yet doesn't accompany them himself. If this is relevant, it could be him being an excellent manipulator, i.e. getting the BG crew to finish the Director without having to get his own hands dirty and/or break his pacifism.- He works for Command and is neither red nor blue, but he gets overtime while Freelancers don't, and seems genuinely surprised that they don't. He spent most of season 8 with Maine and Wash who don't recognize him. You could argue that he's hiding his identity, but he was possessed by O'malley. If he were a Freelancer, O'malley would've been able to find that out.
- Jossed.
