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Headscratchers: Rise of the Guardians
  • Bunnymund says "I'm bringing spring to every continent, an' I'm bringin' hope with me!" ... ... except for Africa, South America, and what's that last one, oh, yes, Australia. How can the Easter Bunny forget that Easter doesn't align with springtime in his home continent?
    • When North America doesn't get their presents or Easter eggs, the news probably spreads to the Southern Hemisphere. And where does it say Bunnymund is Australian? Sure, he has the accent, but he was never stated to be born in Australia. Also, are bunnies typically found in Australia?
      • According to the other wiki, yes.
      • Given the rabbit epidemic that occurred when settlers decided to introduce rabbits (see: animals with no indigenous predators), I'd say yes, though it's more controlled now.
      • Um, excuse me, just to pull you up on this, but Bunnymund is clearly modelled off a kangaroo. And it's not just an accent, he uses boomerangs as weapons. And he drops so many cliche Australian slang words that I feel like I'm choking on my own culture. He's definitely Australian, and it bugged me as well that they put Easter in springtime, when here it's smack in autumn.
  • North's accent and costumes make sense, Santa is modelled on St Nick, who was originally a Scandinavian and Northern European folklore, so him wearing Russian (?) style hats and so on makes sense. So why is Bunnymund so obviously Australian when rabbits are major destructive introduced pests in that country? Surely the Easter Bunny has been around longer than the 150 years or so rabbits have been in Australia?
  • How is it that Jamie is, for a while, the only kid in the whole world to believe in the Guardians when his sister actually met them too?
    • Check the "Fridge Logic" page. It says this there. Twice, actually. They were really close together, only a room apart, so their lights were probably so close Pitch thought they were one (heck, on that globe an entire city is pretty much a dot). Or Sophie was just too young to actually even understand the concept of "belief". For example, Christmas is that day where toys appear under a tree decorated with glowy thingies.
    • Indeed, note that Sophie displays absolutely zero surprise at seeing the Guardians, or any of the wacky stuff she encounters. She's just too little for her belief to be a matter of faith, it's all "Ooo, that thing I've seen before that I like!"
  • This is something made somewhat unclear in the movie. if enough people believe in a specific guardian, does that mean that everyone can automatically see him or her? Or is it only people who believe in a specific guardian that can see that specific guardian.
    • The latter, I believe is the case.
    • However, if you know Santa Claus is real, you'd probably be more inclined to believe in Easter Bunny, etc. So it helps,
  • So, supposedly the town Jack was hanging out at towards the beginning of the movie had a snow day. But there's barely enough snow on the grass to constitute a snow day, let alone the streets.
    • If the town was part of a school district, instead of having a school system exclusively for that particular town, it's possible that there was heavy snow in another area and this town only got a little. This troper has had a lot of snow days with no snow at all, because of the weather in another part of the district.
    • Some towns do not close down school for any amount of snow at all, but others cancel school for just a sprinkle of snow on the ground. it's possible Jamie's town falls in the latters
    • Jack ices up the streets pretty good in creating the snow day, which was probably one of the major justifications for it.
  • Why didn't the Bunny just set the tunnel entrance to the inside of Santa's workshop, rather than outside?
    • Rule of Funny
    • Or it could be that Santa's workshop had some kind of spells preventing magical entry. That's very common in fantastic fiction.
      • That doesn't seem to be the case, since Pitch is able to appear inside the North Pole and Bunny later opens a tunnel to his warren directly from Santa's workshop. Still, it would be good manners not to directly transport yourself into someone else's home. It's like knocking before coming inside for non-magical guests.
      • Bunny also presumably goes straight back to Santa's after the Yeti's nap Jack, through his tunnel. It's possible he didn't the first time out of politeness mixed with Rule of Funny
  • What was with the mouse? Did he work for the tooth fairy or something? And if so, and if she still had people out there working for her, why were so many kids still losing faith so fast if they were apparently outsourcing their work?
    • The mouse is a European equivilant to the tooth fairy myth. It was a nod to other fairy tales. And if I had to guess, it's just about who woke up at the time. Remember timezones are a factor. So while other kids woke up, several others were still asleep. The European division doesn't cover places like North America.
  • Why was Jamie the only one left who believed? What about Sophie, she saw the guardians even more than Jaime. She went to the Easter Bunny's tunnel and saw the eggs being made.
    • See the above.
  • Who do only children count? I mean, I'm sure the parents would notice that they weren't replacing any teeth with quarters (or Christmas trees), or that there were a lot of gifts they hadn't bought, etc., so they have every logical reason to believe that there's either some weirdo creep in every neighbourhood in the world or the legends are all real.
    • Just standard kids movie stuff. If there's not a trope for Adults Don't Believe, there ought to be.
  • Jack's staff was just an oddly shaped stick when he first picked it up, and before then, he was show to still have powers .So why does he lose all of his powers when Pitch breaks it?
    • MagicFeather
    • Maybe it just focus his powers so he has more control over them.
    • This troper saw it as Jack's staff giving him more conscious control and direction rather than his "blunter" winter-spirit abilities (he uses the staff to create snowballs, but not to make it snow).
  • What about all the kids who aren't celebrating Christmas or Easter-there's plenty of Jewish kids...
    • The Tooth Fairy and Sandman are wholly secular. And while Santa and the Easter Bunny are associated with Christian/Catholic holidays, they're really just big jolly figures that even other kids probably enjoy the sight and thought of. Anyway, the Guardians protect all children, including the ones that don't believe in them, so it's not like it matters in the big scheme of things.
    • Not to mention, both Easter and Christmas are both related to even older holidays celebrating the solstices.
    • They're both very much representations of the secular side of Easter and Christmas anyway, which is an element that a lot of non-Christians get involved in (if only because they coincide with school holidays and so forth).
  • That isn't very clear about the film, but what were Pitch's actual feelings about Jack? That's sure, they both are enemies, but according to the scene in Antarctica, Pitch seems to see him more as he offered Jack to join him. The question is: was Pitch's only goal in this scene was manipulating Jack as usual, or was he truly sincere about the fact that he felt alone of not being believed in. It looks like that's one of few scenes where he was shown as sincere and actually showed some true empathy toward him, as he sounded very sad to not being believed in. And the face that he had when Jack refused his offer showed he was genuinely sad about being rejected, so maybe he was truly sincere about the offer. But before this event, Pitch definitely mocked Jack for not being believed in, spent all his time to torture him and even tried to apart Jack from the others Guardians by giving him the teeth of his memories. So, were these actions were planned from the beginning to make Jack joining his side, or was it something he did to break Jack down more than he already did?
    • Why not both? He could have genuinely wanted Jack to join him, but saw manipulating him against the other guardians to be more important. He may have just seen it as a way to do both. Also, he clearly believed he was in complete control and was going to win regardless. So he had no real reason to manipulate Jack other than to join his side.
    • I see so was that a twisted way to gain friendship, wasn't it? However, another point about this Antartica scene: why did he want Jack to join his side? Apparently, the first reason why he was interested in Jack was his powers wasn't he? However, if he only wanted his powers and being unstoppable if Jack joined his side, why did he just take the staff in exchange of Baby Tooth then just broke it right afterward? The staff is apparently an extension of Jack's powers, so he could have just kept it for himself. Or did he do it because Jack's rejection?
  • Okay, if Jack's powers affected the world, couldn't he have, for example, used his ice and such to write his name and animate ice sculptures to bring attention to it? I don't accept him being, if he was, illiterate as excuse. He had enough time to learn and his wind can carry books, if he himself couldn't have done that.
    • Maybe he didn't want to, and was mostly interested in having fun. Or he tried it a few times early on, it didn't work, and he gave up. Or he never thought of it before. Or Rule of Drama.
  • How could Jack's baby teeth contain memories up until the moment he died? When he died he was in his latter teens at least, long after he was done having baby teeth.
    • The same way the other kids' teeth could give their memories back, even though the kids in question were scattered around the world. They were still connected.
  • Why did human Jack go ice skating barefoot? Even if he was too poor to afford skates, intentionally going barefoot on winter ice is potentially deadly.
    • He had ice skates too. You can see this in the scene with his sister. He probably took them off when his sister was trapped on thin ice.
  • If Jack Frost became Jack Frost after drowning in a frozen lake, does that mean other Guardians and Pitch came around in a similar manner?
    • Not according to the books. As I recall, North was the only Guardian besides Jack to start off as a human, and he was a wizard who chose to take up the role. Pitch was a human who was possessed by an Eldritch Abomination.
    • IIRC, the Tooth Fairy stated outright that they were all once human(Or possibly rabbit) until they were chosen to become guardians.
  • Quote from Pitch's character page: "He was once a Well-Intentioned Extremist who used fear to protect children from danger." How, exactly, did he do that? The movie didn't have anything about that and I'm not currently able to read the books.
    • In the sense of using fear as warning. For instance, say a child comes across a dog that's twice their size, barking wildly at them. They'd instantly be terrified and run away. Pitch once used fear as means to veer them away from danger, not outright protect them from it. And the books and movie seem rocky on Pitch's plot, constantly zig-zagging his story and morals. The movie takes place far long after the books, so it's likely Pitch has become a permanent no-good-doer.
  • What was it that prompted Jack to offer to take Sophie home after the egg-decorating scene? The other Guardians reminded him that he would be their best bet for bringing Easter to the surface if Pitch showed up, and he's just found out that all of them could use some more time spent with children...So even though he couldn't have foreseen Pitch using his memories to lure him off-track, why didn't he just let one of them return her home through a quicker method, like a snow-globe or those tunnels in the ground?
    • Bunny sure was needed at that moment, being the leader of the ordeal. Perhaps Jack simply got excited? He liked being in Burgess and he was probably thrilled to find out that he could actually hold Sophie, as opposed to passing through her.

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