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  • To this day, there is something that remains unanswered. Was it always the intention that both Earth-2149 and Earth-91126 were in a Stable Time Loop or was the Hunger Virus originally going to have a specific origin? In Dead Days, Magneto mentions having made a deal with an entity to bring the virus to Earth, naively thinking that the virus would only affect humans in order to balance the playing field for the mutants, but in Marvel Zombies Return, it is revealed to us that the virus has no origin and that the Watcher trapped it in a time loop so that it does not go to other universes. That said, during the Ultimate Marvel crossover, Zombie Mr. Fantastic also mentions that the Sentry had infected many other universes before arriving at Earth-2149. It should be noted also that the ending of Return indicates that Sentry went straight from Earth-91126 to Earth-2149, but Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness shows us that he first went to Heaven along with Ashley Williams and both were later sent to Earth-2149.
    • Its pretty obvious that they gave several different origins of the virus so they had potential for future stories. But then the zombie hype was fading and it was time to wrap up the series, they probably made up the time loop element, despite a few contradictions, to tie everything up in a neat little bow.
    • It might not even be a complete contradiction; some part of the Sentry could have gone to Heaven.
  • Earth-2149 has a different logic or contradictions that don't respect the canon within the characters? Some charatcers are able to be infected or devoured when they shouldn't. Technically, Luke Cage's skin is unbreakable and therefore shouldn't be able to be bitten. The same with Colossus. Likewise, being a machine, Vision could be bitten but not infected, since he is not a living being at all. The Sandman should also count, as his body is now granulated. It should be noted that Mr. Fantastic did infect the Thing without biting him, but how could he could prickle the Thing as well as the Invisible Woman and the Human Torch if the Thing's skin is made of stone? And how Thor can be infected if he is an Asgardian god? He shouldn't be immune to something that can infect humans? And Silver Surfer, whose skin is metallic, why is still able to be devoured?
    • Being a different universe, these versions of the characters are not bound by traditional rules. This applies to a lot of questions on this page, really.
    • Keep in mind also that emphasis was placed on several occasions on how the virus doesn't work like a regular virus, given such anomalies as Wolverine being infected despite his healing factor.
    • It's not strictly IMPOSSIBLE to pierce Luke Cage's skin, and he was infected by the Sentry, one of the most physically powerful beings on Earth. Vision was later shown to be incapable of being zombified and any appearances to the contrary are simple continuity errors. A better question is how was Ghost Rider infected, when he not only doesn't have flesh but is instead merely a demonic force taking a human host. The likely truth?
  • Given some of the injuries the Zombies suffer, how is it possible that some of them can still eat if they lack stomachs or heads? In the first Marvel Zombies, Iron Man gets his legs and most of his torso blasted by Silver Surfer and the Wasp gets beheaded by Giant-Man, but otherwise they can still eat despite that the former lacks a stomach and the latter has nothing but a head and a neck. Shouldn't their food spill after passing through Iron Man's esophagus and through Wasp's neck since there are no stomachs to receive it? The same with Daredevil, who had a huge hole on his torso. Likewise, in Marvel Zombies Returns, Zombie Spider-Man kills Mysterio by pulling his brain out and beheads Electro with the Vulture's arms, but despite this both the corpses of Mysterio and Electro still are zombified even when they lack mouths to feed on people.
    • The virus compels them to eat, irregardless of the current state of their bodies. It's not unlike in most zombie movies and games where a zombie can be blasted in half, but still drag itself along to keep attacking and eating: the virus forces them to.
  • According to the ending of Marvel Zombies Return, the time loop containing the Hunger Virus repeats over and over again, and as a result, all the characters repeat their actions over and over again. However, what happens if a character from another universe travels to either Earth-2149 or Earth-91126 and interrupts some event in both universes? What if perhaps, for example, Deadpool from Earth-616 travels to Earth-2149 and kills Giant-Man by shooting him in the head before they returned to Earth after eating almost their entire universe in forty years? So maybe Spider-Man if he could prevent the virus from spreading on Earth-91126? It should be noted that when the Fantastic Four from Earth-1610 traveled to Earth-2149, they took Kelly Ridge, Danny Glidewell and Dan's daughter Mindy to their universe, so have they removed them from the time loop? How would the time loop play out then with the absence of those three survivors? And what would happen to the presence of Ashley Williams if he managed to return to his own universe after visiting Earth-2149?
    • Being a stable time loop would surely mean that no one would travel to the universe because no one did, and the loop of no one visiting would simply repeat, or anyone who did visit, always did, and will every time it loops so is always there and part of the loop so will not change what happened.
  • The time loop which contains the Hunger Virus forces the events to happen over and over again or just contains the virus but otherwise life continues in both Earth-2149 and Earth-91126? If the latter is the case, that means that Malcolm Cortez is still waiting in New Wakanda for K'Shamba to grow up so he can kill him to become King of New Wakanda at Earth-2149? And that Sandman and War Machine are now living alone in their desolate Earth at Earth-91126? At the very least, given the narration, it's implied that the Watcher of Earth-91126 is not part of the time loop and he still keeps living his life at his infected universe, aside that it's never stated if the Zombie Avengers of Earth-91126 managed to leave Earth and devoured other planets in their universe, which possibly means that some alien species are still extant.
    • Yeah, its a Bittersweet Ending in both cases. Especially in New Wakanda, which thanks to a lack of genetic diversity will be dead in a few generations.

Marvel Zombies

  • Daredevil clearly assures Magneto that he, and the other superheroes, can see that he is about to pass out. Tell me what is wrong with that.
    • He just means "see" in the sense that he's aware of it; I'm fairly sure Daredevil tends to act as though he has working vision when dealing with people who don't know his secret identity.
  • When the Zombies start attacking Silver Surfer, why didn't the Silver Surfer just leave the Earth by flying as high as he could on his surfboard and just shoot the Zombies that jumped high to reach him if the Zombies had already made clear his intentions to devour him? Thor was able to knock him off his surfboard, but it was just luck as he no longer had his powers due him being no longer worthy of carrying the Mjolnir. That said, why the Silver Surfer didn't just ignore them and leave for oanther part of Earth with no Zombies if his original counterpart, when he first arrived on Earth, turned his back on the Fantastic Four as he contacted Galactus?
    • Most likely he just underestimated them and didn't believe they could hurt him until it was too late.
  • How is possible that the Wasp's head and body recovered their normal size after Giant-Man beheaded her by bitting off her head? If Giant-Man had bitten the Wasp's neck while she was still little, her head and her body shouldn't have stay little?
  • Why Burns didn't become a Zombie if he was bitten by the Wasp? The Wasp bites his neck but we never see his brain being destroyed, which is the only way to kill a Zombie.
    • We see Burns was bitten on the neck, and he mostly likely bleu out, which killed him immediately and prevented him from becoming infected.
  • Why it took for Galactus so many days to install his necessary equipment to devour the Earth? If I recall correctly, in The Coming of Galactus, Galactus took no more than just one day to prepare his equipment to devour the Earth until the Fantastic Four threatened him with the Ultimate Nullifier. That said, when the Fantastic Four tried to stop him, he summoned a servant of his named the Punisher to distract them, but Galactus doesn't do this here...
    • Different Galactus. Maybe different methods of eating planets.
  • When Spider-Man kills Eddie Brock, he tells him that the Venom symbiote is dying with him as he is no longer a suitable host given his undead status. But why the Venom symbiote just didn't leave Brock earlier for some animal? Silver Surfer's comments indicate that there's still life on Earth, so we can assume that some animals survived the contagion. Possibly not pets, as Black Widow is depicted as eating a poodle, but maybe rats, bacteria or bugs? Fish surely survived too as they live underwater, but the symbiote can't touch water.
    • It's possible that Eddie being turned into a zombie had negative effects on the symbiote that prevented it from leaving Eddie or the symbiote was weakened by the virus that it only had the energy for one jump and Eddie just hadn't gotten close to any living that would make the jump worth the risk.
  • How is possible that Giant-Man, Hulk, Luke Cage, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Wolverine were able to devour Galactus? They devour him like if he were a giant human, yet the comics have specified that Galactus isn't actually a giant human but a force of nature who is only seen as a giant human by the humans as this is how humans perceive him. Theorically speaking, Galactus is more like living energy just like the Watcher and thus he shouldn't be eaten. The same happens later with both the Galactus of Earth-91126, whose remains are that of a giant human skeleton, and the Galactus of Earth-7085 (the Earth with werewolves). Much like the Watcher of Earth-91126, Galactus shouldn't have been able to not be killed by the Zombies?
    • See above: new dimension, new rules, fleshy Galactus.

Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness

  • Why did the Avengers think Ashley Williams was crazy when he told them about the Deadites? Taking into account that the Avengers live in a universe where alien threats, interdimensional travelers and paranormal entities are a very common thing every day, something like the Deadites would not sound very crazy especially from a man with a metal hand and a shotgun...
    • With Deadites have not appeared in this reality yet on top of not making a very good impression by shooting their intercom, he said his source came from a bag lady. Colonel America coud have very well took the situation abit seriously until Ash mentioned this on top of claiming to have fought Deadites in a looney bin.
  • How is it possible that Sentry was able to eat people in Heaven if those people are already dead and their souls are present there? Logically, a soul cannot be physically harmed if it no longer has a body.
  • What happened to Sentry after infecting the Avengers? The last time we see him in the comic is when he's strangling Captain Marvel with Luke Cage, Hawkeye, Black Widow and Colonel America slowly turning, but after that, he fades away and we don't see him again in any other installment of the series. Also, every time there is a flashback in other comics of how the plague began, this same scene is shown but you can see that it is never mentioned what happened with Sentry afterwards...
    • Presumably he was incinerated by the Power Cosmic zombies when they got their powers, just like with all the others. That, or he was killed by the other zombies earlier in the contagion crisis, since they probably didn't want to share...
  • Why did the Earth-2149 Watcher do absolutely nothing to stop Sentry? I understand that the Watcher is not supposed to intervene, but there have already been several times on Earth-616 that the Watcher has intervened, like when he helped Mr. Fantastic get rid of all the villains that were interrupting his wedding to the Woman. Invisible or when he helped the Fantastic Four hold Galactus long enough that the Human Torch could get the Ultimate Nullifier and threaten Galactus to leave. Why didn't it help this time if the Sentry was a threat that endangered his entire universe?
    • It's never really explained why.
  • In Latveria, Doctor Doom shows Scarlet Witch and Dazzler that he has rescued all the Latverians that he could, but clarifies that there are no children or elderly people because he has only collected those who are of reproductive age? Okay, but why didn't you collect the children and the male elders if they could still reproduce? I mean, children can't reproduce yet, but if they go to another universe, once they grow up they would be ready to have children, and men, old or young, are fertile all their lives.
    • He most likely didn't completely think his plan through. Doom is arrogant and stubborn, after all.
  • How could Doctor Doom retain his infection long enough to use his interdimensional portal and send the surviving Latverians and Ashley Williams to other universes? He doesn't have any kind of accelerated healing to fend off the zombification longer unlike Spider-Man and Wolverine.
    • Sheer force of will. Doom is just that badass.
  • Why Doctor Doom sends the Latverian survivors through a portal to different universes and realities? In Marvel Zombies: Dead Days, Nick Fury states that if they use the dimensional portal created by Tony Stark, they would possibly carry on the Hunger Virus with them and start the contagion in other universe. By doing this, Doom is not threatening other universes and realities to be infected with the virus?
    • Fury destroyed the portal in that case because they had no way to use it to send that small group of heroes to another world and then destroy it so that the zombies couldn't use it themselves; in this case Doom is sending his people to safety and staying behind to destroy it himself.
  • At the end, the Necronomicon is spared from being eaten by the Zombies as Wolverine tells him that they will not eat a book, but he hands the Necronomicon to Hulk so Hulk can use it as toilet paper. But how is this possible? As Zombies, the superheroes should not have any more use of their digestive system and thus they would no longer need to defecate?
    • Maybe a case of Rule of Funny?
    • The zombies only have so much room in their bodies. If they gorge on humans faster than they can metabolize, the meat will be forced out through any convenient exit.
  • Why was Doom keeping Zombie Enchantress locked up in a cell instead of just destroying her?
    • Maybe he was keeping her for a specific reason, but we're never told why. Since Amora is an asgardian with magic powers, Doom mostly likely saw some significant value in her. However, whatever that value was is unknown...

Marvel Zombies: Dead Days

  • How Aunt May thought that she could treat Peter's bite with peroxide? She and Mary Jane had clearly seen in the news that everyone who got bitten by the Zombies eventually became one, so it's kinda obvious that peroxide wasn't going to be the solution for the problem. Or maybe she thought that Peter's regenerative healing factor made him immune to the contagion?
    • She was running on auto-pilot from fear. She recognized he'd been bitten, but thought about it in terms of a dog bite.
    • They hadn't clearly heard the "Why" to what caused people to do so, they just knew things were going horrifically bad, the outbreak was literally within it's first hours, and people were eating other people, so Aunt May probably thought it was simply a normal bite.
  • Why was J. Jonah Jameson still at his office in the Daily Bugle if it had been reported at least a couple of hours ago that the Avengers had turned into Zombies? He didn't think on running to his home?
    • He's just that dedicated to reporting the news. Say what you will about JJ, he takes his job seriously.
  • If Doctor Strange can time travel and the only known way to kill a Zombie is to destroy his/her brain, then why Doctor Strange didn't time travel before the infection started to destroy the Sentry's brain upon his arrival to Earth-2149? If he had done this, then the Hunger Virus would have died with Sentry and the contagion would have been easily averted...
    • Doctor Strange's ability to travel through time is generally only present in a certain continuity. It is not generally one of his powers in the comics.
  • Likewise, if Nightcrawler can teleport, why didn't he teleport himself, Thor, Doctor Strange, Colossus, Storm and Nick Fury after Thor destroyed the dimensional portal? They could have still escaped to fight another day!!!
    • Possibly, but where would they have gone and what would have been accomplished by that? If the Helicarrier has fallen to the infection, those few heroes probably felt safe assuming that they were the last significant group of uninfected on the planet, or at least in the immediate area, and Nightcrawler can only teleport so many people so far without getting tired. Even if Nightcrawler could have taken himself and five other people somewhere outside the Helicarrier, I doubt he would have had the strength to get them all out of the danger zone before something else attacked them, so the heroes probably decided that it would be best to take a final stand here and now and make sure this infection couldn't spread to another world.

Marvel Zombies 2

  • How is it possible that Hawkeye's head wasn't found in all these forty years until K'Shamba found him under New Wakanda's rubble? In these forty years, no one explored those streets and didn't hear his request for help?
    • It's possible that through the years he was heard but those who did either dismissed it as them hearing things or were too fearful to investigate.
  • Among the reasons for which Malcolm Cortez doesn't really trust on T'Challa as their king, he says that T'Challa was never on a war despite being a warrior king. Does Malcolm not know that T'Challa was involved in various tribal wars during his tenure as King of Wakanda?
    • It's possible that he doesn't know, it's also equally possible that he knows and just doesn't care finding his claims a convenient excuse to seize power as a way to paint himself more noble over his naked ambition to be king.
  • Why Malcolm Cortez didn't think that sending an assassin to kill T'Challa was really worth? He wants to be king, but Black Panther and Forge state very clear at the beginning that they don't have a big genetic pool enough to permanently restore the human race, so why bother? He has possibly worsened the situation before when he had T'Channa killed, costing the survivors a member who could potentially still breed so humanity could survive a little more.
    • Cortez is clearly established as a very short-sighted individual who only focuses on his own desire for power rather than thinking about the long-term consequences of his actions.
  • The scene in which the Wasp kisses Reynolds reveals to us that the Hunger Virus can't be passed through saliva. It seems that someone can only be infected by being bitten by one of the Zombies. Thus, if being bitten is the way to be infected, then why did Spider-Man never think about plucking out his teeth? That way, he would not have been able to infect anyone and he could have plucked out the teeth of other Zombie Galacti...
    • Spider-Man was more caught in the horror over being a zombie and everything he's done as one over thinking of potential solutions.
  • Despite his sacrifice, Reynolds doesn't get a tombstone at the end though it was thanks to him that the heroes were able to kill Hulk after Reynolds allowed himself to be eaten by the Hulk. And in spite of his dangerous actions, the Hulk still gets a tombstone even if he didn't do anything heroic! So Reynolds' sacrifice didn't matter to the heroes?

Marvel Zombies Return

  • It has been stated in many other instalments, especially by the Necronomicon in Marvel Zombies vs. Army of Darkness, that the Hunger Virus is of extraterrestrial origin and has no cure. But when Spider-Man arrives at Earth-91126, he thinks that the Lifeline Tablet can be the key to cure himself. As far the comics state, the Lifeline Tablet can rejuvenate, heal and grant its user the chance to reach the full evolutionary potential of his or her race to the point of allowing such user to reach a near omnipotent immortality. Maybe the Lifeline Tablet had a chance to eradicate the Hunger Virus?
    • Spidey was hopeful enough to think so. Who knows, if everything didn't go to pot it may very well have worked.
  • Why didn't Harry, Gwen or Mary Jane run away immediately after the Zombie Spider-Man ripped off Kraven the Hunter's throat? They were being assaulted by them and it's pretty safe to assume that they would have seen Spider-Man killing the Sinister Six in such horrific ways, as the comic explicitly states that the university's students and security are horrified after seeing what Spider-Man had done. Same with the Vulture, who as Spider-Man noted, had the chance to fly away but realized it too late...
    • They were in shock at the brutality and couldn't think to run.
  • Why Earth-91126's Mysterio seems to be just a brain with no head? When Spider-Man uses his spider sense to discover which Mysterio is the real one, the only parts of Mysterio's body with meat are all his body from the shoulders to his feet and his bran, but has no head.
    • An exaggeration on behalf of the artist to show what Zombie Spidey is thinking (read: FOOD!).
  • If Kingpin is really intelligent, being New York City's most powerful crime lord, why didn't he use his head when Zombie Spider-Man appeared? It's kinda obvious that such Spider-Man wasn't his universe's Spidey and even if Kingpin hadn't noted Zombie Spider-Man's putrid state, they were still five zombified members of the Sinister Six behind him...
    • IIRC, even the Kingpin's henchmen pointed out this.
  • At the end of the issue, a regretful Spider-Man rips off his skin and throws it to a trash can for his failure to recover the Lifeline Tablet, but by the time he appears in Japan to save Kitty Pride and Earth-91126's Wolverine, he has his putrid skin again. How he got it back?
    • Change in artists, most likely. He's also heavily shadowed in the Japan issue, so maybe he still lacks skin and we just can't tell.
  • At which point Zombie Wolverine was able to bite Earth-91126's Wolverine? And how the Wolverine of Earth-91126 managed to control his hunger?
    • It might have been a quick chomp during the fight, that 91126 never noticed (most versions of Wolverine have a massive resistance to pain on account of all they have taken over the years), as for how he controlled his hunger, what caused him to turn to Z-Spidey's side was that despite asking them not to, the Zombie Avengers ate Kitty, it's never said he really controlled his hunger, it's possible, he kept Kitty alive similar to why Kingpin kept his wife alive, because he cared about her.
  • What happened with Colonel America? The last we saw him was on Marvel Zombies 2 but we never see him on Earth-91126. Maybe he is still there? If that's the case, then Sandman, the Watcher and War Machine haven't disposed off all the Zombies...
    • Given that the revived Colonel America hungered for battle over meat he, like other zombies sent to universe 91126, most likely fought and was subsequently killed by the Zombie Avengers from that universe.
  • It's implied that the Zombie Avengers never managed to leave their Earth but that the Zombie Wasp, the Zombie Luke Cage and the Zombie Black Panther from Earth-2149 led the Kree, the Shiar Imperial Guard and the Skrulls to Earth in an attempt to stop them. However, we can see that the Galactus of Earth-91126 was also devoured by them, so why they didn't get Cosmic Power like it happened with the Zombie Galacti of Earth-2149? It's also implied that Cap died during the battles that took place there, just like with all the other deceased superheroes.
    • Different dimension, different Galactus, this one doesn't bestow power to whoever eats him.
  • How the Sandman tells Uatu that he thought that he was dead if Sandman never met Uatu? For a small-time crook like Flint Marko, I don't think that Sandman could have known qbout Uatu's existence, let aside that Zombie Giant-Man ate him, as there were no people other than Zombie Giant-Man and Uatu when the former devoured the latter.
    • Most likely Sandman was told about Uatu by one of the surviving heroes while they were working on the anti-zombie nanobot weapon; it's not unreasonable that he would have asked someone why the world went to Hell.

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