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  • Haddonfield is small-town Midwest, USA. You're telling me the lynch mob at the end wasn't armed with every kind of gun an American citizen could conceivably own? That town has to have at least one gun store that would have undoubtedly been looted. Not to mention that there would likely be at least a few veterans of Desert Storm and the War On Terror who would disable him or give the kill shot.
    • You overestimate the trigger-happiness of the ordinary american citizen and most people aren't exactly gun-ho in regards to shooting people dead when given the opportunity. Also, it is a mob, meaning that they would be forced to face the law later if they managed to kill Michael Myers, for "First-Degree Murder" (Yes, even if the murdered one was a monster like Myers) with very few willing to go to jail for that. Also, not everybody owns a gun by default just because they are "american". The mob was also made-up with people who, to quote Tommy Doyle, "willing to get their hands dirty", but ultimately, none of them really were when faced with Michael Myers, showing that they were just a flock of half-assed wannabe-militia/sheep that got pulled into a slaughter by group-pressure and nothing else.
    • Lonnie had a stockpile of guns. However, a big portion of the mob had joined it in the hospital — which was under lockdown — and didn't have the time or means to run home and grab their guns, so they just grabbed whatever was available.

  • How did Michael get behind the shutter in the basement, let alone out of it? Aren't those supposed to be remote controlled by Laurie?
    • Brute force, if not Laurie leaving a spare/backup down there.

  • Marion shoots a Smith & Wesson Model 60 revolver five times trying to kill Michael it clicks empty after five shots there should have been another bullet as revolvers contain six.
    • A S&W Model 60 is a 5-shot revolver.

  • We're two movies into this new timeline and really how exactly do we even explain Michael's stalking of Laurie in the original? Both the new movies try to make him out as more a chaotic killer, which works on their film's actions. But in the original 1978 film, Michael was clearly stalking Laurie for some reason and only killed three people directly tied to the stalking where Laurie was. Here he's going on a serious killing spree of any victim he feels like which is not present in the original.
    • My best guess is in the original he wants to go home. He sees Laurie with the key to his childhood home and figures its her he has to go after to take it back. He goes after her friends to level the playing field so they can't band together.
    • Honestly, there really isn't one. He was free in 1978, decided he wanted to kill some people, and arbitrarily chose Laurie with no deeper meaning behind it. He killed Laurie's friends because they were nearby, maybe saving her for last in some sick game, but ultimately she meant nothing to him. He doesn't even remember her in the 2018 film, showing how little he cares about who he's killing.
    • In the original film, Michael doesn't start stalking Laurie until she comes to his house. If nothing else, this movie gives the perfect explanation: she wasn't invited. And sure, most of his kills in the 1978 movie don't have anything to do with the house, but it's fairly clear that he has other motivations for killing beyond keeping intruders out of his home.

  • What has also changed for Michael between 1978 and 2018? He just walked out and gave up in 1978 like a Dented Iron but then goes back to normal in 2018 in a similar situation? Out of universe it's an awesome Author's Saving Throw for people unhappy with the last film's Dented Iron approach but in-universe it really seems confusing. Laurie makes one thing he gets stronger with more people he kills but that sounds rather mystical, which so far we aren't supposed to expect from this new timeline?
    • His mindset probobly, in the original he has almost gotten away with the few kills, if it weren't for Laurie he may of just gone on living in his home and using the urban legend-ness of his home and himself to keep people away from him. But come 2018 hes had time to stew and Sartain probobly wasn't helping things either
    • One difference between the 1978 and 2018 films and Kills is that Michael is enraged in Kills. He was thoroughly defeated and only survived because of the firefighters ruining Laurie's trap. In Kills, on two separate occasions, he pauses an act of murder (against Sondra and Allyson) to inflict severe emotional damage by brutalizing a person they care about (Phil and Cameron, respectively). Neither man would have survived the wounds Michael inflicted initially, but Michael decided on overkill so it would terrorize Sondra and Allyson, a strategy that ultimately allowed both women to survive. His murders in the previous films were largely less brutal.

  • Why was the Haddonfield mob so quick to assume Lance Tovoli was Michael? I realise that mob mentality can lead to poor judgment but we saw Tommy and everyone else in the bar watch the news about the two escaped Smith's Grove patients and they showed the pictures of both men! Were these people not paying attention to the obvious differences between the two? Granted most of them hadn’t seen Michael without his mask including even Tommy and Lindsey but even still they must’ve noticed that Michael was tall and well built whereas Mr. Tovoli was small and somewhat heavyset! Plus if Lance had been Michael why would he have ditched the mask he went to so much trouble to get and put his hospital gear on?
    • It just comes down to the mob mentality. Likely, not many of them were in front of a TV when the news story showed Michael's face. Tommy *was* in front of a TV when they showed it, but wasn't paying attention when they showed Michael, and later commented that nobody knows what he really looks like because of the mask. Most of the people in the hospital mob haven't seen Michael in the flesh at all to know what kind of build he should have, and they ignore the one person in the mob (Karen) that sees Tovoli and immediately starts shouting, "It's not him!" Tommy immediately trusts a random voice in the crowd who says "It's Michael!" He doesn't want to question it, so he doesn't. Further, the general public doesn't know about his obsession with the mask to know that he wouldn't abandon it to avoid discovery (and nobody but Sartain knew where the mask was and what he must have done to get it back). Laurie knows about his obsession because she survived him by wrenching the mask off in 1978. Lindsey knows because she survived him by dislodging his mask that night. Tommy should be aware due to Lindsey debriefing him, but Tommy as a character represents the shortsightedness of mob mentality and vigilante justice, and his poor decision-making reflects that. Even when Tovoli is dead, Tommy tries to justify it because they don't really *know* he's not Michael, even when Brackett tells him with disgust that Michael is turning them all into monsters.

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