Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / WithTheLight

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Single condition versus...well, that.


* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/autism-manga.html "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]

to:

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/autism-manga.html "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The the "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]



* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "self-closure syndrome", giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

to:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "self-closure syndrome", giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism on the autistic spectrum are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Manga is so hard to find online.

Added DiffLines:

* NeedsMoreLove: With The Light is a very underrated manga that is so hard to find online sadly.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {}Moe}}:Hikaru Azuma definitely has his own way of being cute. Even Kanon.

to:

* {}Moe}}:Hikaru {{Moe}}: Hikaru Azuma definitely has his own way of being cute. cute, Even Kanon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {}Moe}}:Hikaru Azuma definitely has his own way of being cute. Even Kanon.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
moving to its own page


* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming:
** When Hikaru first says "Mommy".
** When Masato is transfered to a job where he was basically waiting to be fired, but used his extra time to help disabled children (specifically autistic kids) because he wants to make Hikaru's life easier. D'awwwwwwwww.
** Aoki-sensei's wedding most definitely counts: Aoki ''himself'' was reduced to tears when his students performed the Mouse March. Then, ''he joined them''.
** Kanon standing up to the kids who make fun of her and Hikaru. A true sibling standing up for her brother.
** When Hikaru saw his mother crying after realizing he will not be 'normal', he gave Sachiko a few wildflowers that snapped her out of her despair.

Added: 794

Changed: 651

Removed: 248

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
indent fix


** SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Even in this day and age, the amount of ignorance and misinformation concerning Autism is surprising. It's very hard for autistics to be properly accommodated in many places, and their treatment in Japan is even worse.



* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: When Hikaru first says "Mommy".

to:

* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming:
**
When Hikaru first says "Mommy".



* JerkassWoobie: This may be a bit of a stretch here, but Masato's mother definitely qualifies. Even though she frequently berates Sachiko and Hikaru on a regular basis and favors Kanon, even she had her own problems (like not being congratulated when she gave birth to a girl, as her family really wanted a son). Oki and the kid who bullied him in the orphanage also apply.

to:

* JerkassWoobie: JerkassWoobie:
**
This may be a bit of a stretch here, but Masato's mother definitely qualifies. Even though she frequently berates Sachiko and Hikaru on a regular basis and favors Kanon, even she had her own problems (like not being congratulated when she gave birth to a girl, as her family really wanted a son). Oki and the kid who bullied him in the orphanage also apply.



* NightmareFuel: Sachiko's mother-in-law [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blaming the poor mother]] for Hikaru's outburst in the funeral, complete with a shot of her raw hate.

to:

* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
**
Sachiko's mother-in-law [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blaming the poor mother]] for Hikaru's outburst in the funeral, complete with a shot of her raw hate.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Even in this day and age, the amount of ignorance and misinformation concerning Autism is surprising. It's very hard for autistics to be properly accommodated in many places, and their treatment in Japan is even worse.



* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need '''A LOT''' of help.

to:

* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need '''A LOT''' of help.Has its own page [[TearJerker/WithTheLight here]].

Added: 237

Removed: 273

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: [[http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/autism-manga.html "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]


Added DiffLines:

* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: [[http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/autism-manga.html "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SweetDreamsFuel: For all of the struggles that Sachiko and her family go through, you can't help but just feel as happy as they do when things go ''right'' for them. Hikaru and Kanon are just adorable, too.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Mrs. Katakura also qualifies. She and Sachiko fell out after she'd once badmouthed Hikaru [[ImStandingRightHere behind Sachiko's back,]] then later indirectly put the boy in danger twice: once by deliberately giving Sachiko the wrong time for the school students to meet up, and when Sachiko confronted her on it, acted callous and indifferent; and later through her eavesdropping daughter Eri, who chose not to inform the teachers that Hikaru was in a locked shed where he suffered an accident. However, Katakura's attitude toward Sachiko stems largely [[GreenEyedMonster from jealousy that Sachiko appears to have a better life than her]] despite caring for a disabled child; we're soon shown that Katakura's (older) husband is [[DomesticAbuse abusive, chauvinistic, and disaffectionate toward her,]] and had refused to [[StayInTheKitchen let her return to work after she had Eri.]][[note]]Eri, for her part, witnessed her father beat her mother after they were confronted on wrong-time incident. While she and Hikaru weren't friends, after Eri saw Hikaru's blood stains on the floor inside the hot shed, she felt horribly guilty about her role in his accident, and is terrified that her father will beat her too if he found out about it.[[/note]] After confessing to Wakabayashi-sensei of the state of her home life, she breaks down in tears once she returns home, scared of her husband, and thinking no one loves her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: [[http://autistscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/autism-manga.html "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: "With The Light" seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: "With The Light" manga seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselholf AmericansLoveWithTheLight]]: "With The Light" seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

to:

* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselholf AmericansLoveWithTheLight]]: [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Americans Love "With The Light"]]: "With The Light" seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselholf AmericansLoveWithTheLight]]: "With The Light" seems to be exceptionally popular among American fans due to The "Autism and Special Needs" theme throughout the series.

Added: 307

Changed: 425

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Kanon standing up to the kids who make fun of her and Hikaru. Gosh that scene really gets to me.
* HoYay: Happens a lot in Volume 3 (Volumes 5 & 6 in Japan). Nobuaki blushes when he leans on Hikaru's desk, saying "I hope he can stay forever!" Kanata lays on a P.E mat next to Hikaru, and they just kinda nudge each other. And for a class play, Kanata plays a female role. ''Very'' well. See also Shotacon and ToyShip.

to:

** Kanon standing up to the kids who make fun of her and Hikaru. Gosh A true sibling standing up for her brother.
** When Hikaru saw his mother crying after realizing he will not be 'normal', he gave Sachiko a few wildflowers
that scene really gets to me.
snapped her out of her despair.
* HoYay: Happens a lot in Volume 3 (Volumes 5 & 6 in Japan). Nobuaki blushes when he leans on Hikaru's desk, saying "I hope he can stay forever!" Kanata lays on a P.E mat next to Hikaru, and they just kinda nudge each other. And for a class play, Kanata plays a female role. ''Very'' well. See also Shotacon and ToyShip.



** The bullies torturing Hikaru on his way home, taking away his GPS while Hikaru panics. Not for victims of bullies, especially autistic victims.

to:

** The bullies torturing robbing Hikaru on his way home, taking away his GPS while Hikaru panics. Not for victims of bullies, especially autistic victims.

Added: 4

Removed: 15



* NeedsMoreLove



* {{Woolseyism}}: The Japanese children's songs were replaced with ones that would be familiar to Western readers, like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".

to:

* {{Woolseyism}}: The Japanese children's songs were replaced with ones that would be familiar to Western readers, like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".Star".
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "closed-in syndrome", giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

to:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "closed-in "self-closure syndrome", giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

Added: 146

Changed: 40

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NightmareFuel: Sachiko's mother-in-law's [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blaming the poor mother]] for Hikaru's outburst in the funeral, complete with a [[HeroicBSOD shot of Sachiko's despair]].

to:

* NightmareFuel: Sachiko's mother-in-law's mother-in-law [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blaming the poor mother]] for Hikaru's outburst in the funeral, complete with a [[HeroicBSOD shot of Sachiko's despair]].her raw hate.


Added DiffLines:

** The bullies torturing Hikaru on his way home, taking away his GPS while Hikaru panics. Not for victims of bullies, especially autistic victims.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Hell, any moment that Sachiko and Hikaru suffer from the Japanese society's apathy to autism is also this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NightmareFuel: Sachiko's mother-in-law's [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blaming the poor mother]] for Hikaru's outburst in the funeral, complete with a [[HeroicBSOD shot of Sachiko's despair]].
--> '''"It's all your fault!"'''
** Hell, any moment that Sachiko and Hikaru suffer from the Japanese society's apathy to autism is also this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Even in this day and age, the amount of ignorance and misinformation concerning Autism is surprising. It's very hard for autistics to be properly accommodated in many places, and their treatment in Japan isn't much better.

to:

** SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Even in this day and age, the amount of ignorance and misinformation concerning Autism is surprising. It's very hard for autistics to be properly accommodated in many places, and their treatment in Japan isn't much better.is even worse.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "closed-in syndrome, giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

to:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning.[[note]]They literally mean "closed-in syndrome, syndrome", giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning. This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

to:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning. [[note]]They literally mean "closed-in syndrome, giving the false impression that it's the victim's fault, or the mother's fault that someone has autism.[[/note]] This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Anvilicious}}: With works of this didactic nature, it's hard not to be. Especially when the story revisits some concepts explored in previous chapters. It's difficult to ignore when the English publication jams two volumes in one.

to:

* {{Anvilicious}}: With works of this didactic nature, it's hard not to be. Especially when the story revisits some concepts explored in previous chapters. It's difficult to ignore when the English publication jams two volumes in into one.



** When Masato is transfered to a job where he was basicly waiting to be fired, but used his extra time to help disabled children (specificly autistic kids) because he wants to make Hikaru's life easier. D'awwwwwwwww.

to:

** When Masato is transfered to a job where he was basicly basically waiting to be fired, but used his extra time to help disabled children (specificly (specifically autistic kids) because he wants to make Hikaru's life easier. D'awwwwwwwww.



* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need '''A LOT''' help.

to:

* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need '''A LOT''' of help.



* {{Woolseyism}}: The Japanese child songs were replaced with ones that would be familiar to Western readers, like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". That said, some Japanese idioms, like "the scales fell from my eyes" were left in.

to:

* {{Woolseyism}}: The Japanese child children's songs were replaced with ones that would be familiar to Western readers, like "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". That said, some Japanese idioms, like "the scales fell from my eyes" were left in.Star".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning. This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially not that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

to:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning. This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially not now that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ValuesResonance: With subject matter like this, you'd think it was made just recently. But nope! This was written in 1999, years after Autism finally got to be recognized as a neurological disorder. Not only does it treat its subject well, it also addresses (and berates) common Japanese stereotypes related to Autism, such as the Japanese's words' meaning. This manga's messages become more and more relevant with each passing year, especially not that the majority of people with Autism are becoming adults who may very well need support in a world that feels they either need to be fixed or that they're incapable of anything.

Added: 473

Changed: 12

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Kanon standing up to the kids who make fun of her and Hikaru. Gosh that scene really gets to me.



* JerkassWoobie: This may be a bit of a stretch here, but Masato's mother definitely qualifies. Even though she frequently berates Sachiko and Hikaru on a regular basis and favors Kanon, even she had her own problems (like not being congratulated when she gave birth to a girl, as her family really wanted a son). Oki and the kid who bullied him in the orphanage also apply.



* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need help.

to:

* TearJerker: If this book doesn't pull at your heartstrings, then you need '''A LOT''' help.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moving to YMMV

Added DiffLines:

* HoYay: Happens a lot in Volume 3 (Volumes 5 & 6 in Japan). Nobuaki blushes when he leans on Hikaru's desk, saying "I hope he can stay forever!" Kanata lays on a P.E mat next to Hikaru, and they just kinda nudge each other. And for a class play, Kanata plays a female role. ''Very'' well. See also Shotacon and ToyShip.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Narm}}: Sachiko's reactions sometimes come off as a little over-the-top. The Shoujo-style, which looks like a cross between ''GlassMask'' and ''RoseOfVersailles'', can exacerbate this.

Top